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Old October 11th 04, 09:30 AM
Simon Templar
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Steve Grauman wrote:


I've seen several phones touted as "world phones" capable of operating outside
the U.S. in Asia and Europe. I guess my question is: does this simply mean that
these phones are capable of operating on the GSM 900 system while most North
American phones are not? I've got a Sony Ericsson T616 and I'm planing a trip
to Japan this February. Even though my plan has no provisions for international
calling, I'm curious as to wether my phone will operate in Japan. I'd sort of
like to have an operating cell phone with me, "just in case".
Steve Grauman


This depends, are they tri-band or quad-band models? For example your
Sony Ericsson T616 will be next to useless here in Australia because
most of our carriers require your phone to log in at 900 before you can
use it. Not sure what the Japan uses, others should be able to help you
out there.


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Old October 11th 04, 11:20 AM
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On 11 Oct 2004, at 08:10:18 [GMT GMT] (18:10:18 Monday, 11 October 2004
where I live) "Steve Grauman" wrote:

Even though my plan has no provisions for international
calling, I'm curious as to wether my phone will operate in Japan.


No GSM phone , except possibly GSM 2000 (WDCDMA ?) operates in Japan or
Korea.

(North Korea has GSM 900 according to www.gsmworld.com)

Japan has a unique phone network, but Vodaphone a reported to be installing
a 3G GSM network on GSM 2000, but no reports of it working yet.

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Old October 11th 04, 12:45 PM
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John wrote:

Japan has a unique phone network, but Vodaphone a reported to be
installing a 3G GSM network on GSM 2000, but no reports of it
working yet.


An Austrian journalist reported that with his Austrian 3G/UMTS
phone he could roam in Japan - although his SP didn't even have a
roaming agreement with the Japanese SP -, and this at zero cost.

Zero cost, of course, is temporary, although I data-roam (GPRS)
for free with my Austrian SIM on one Italian and one German
network, and this for over three years now.

M.
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Old October 11th 04, 04:50 PM
John S.
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It's also not clear to me why the US GSM carrier
frequencies have to be different from the rest of the world


Because the frequencies that the rest of the world uses were already in use for
other purposes here in the USA.

The carriers have to use what is available to them.

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Old October 11th 04, 05:51 PM
John Navas
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In on Sun, 10 Oct 2004 00:59:25 -0700,
"EL" wrote:

USA are at least 2 to 3 years behind Europe cell phone
and GSM


Say what? That was arguably true in the past, but I'd say the USA is now
quite close to or even ahead of the rest of the world in GSM and handset
technology; e.g.,

* Broad national geographic GSM coverage
* Wide deployment of GPRS by all three national GSM carriers
* Wide deployment of EDGE (EGPRS) by two of three national GSM carriers
* Significant deployment of UMTS by ATTWS
* Motorola back in a leadership position
* Cutting edge handsets for the US market; e.g.,
+ Motorola RAZR V3, V551
+ Sony Ericsson K700a, Z500a

In addition, CDMA is a strong alternative to GSM.

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Old October 11th 04, 09:45 PM
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, at 16:51:54 [GMT GMT] (02:51:54 Tuesday, 12 October
2004 where I live) "John Navas" wrote:

Say what? That was arguably true in the past, but I'd say the USA is now
quite close to or even ahead of the rest of the world in GSM and handset
technology


One are in which the USA may be behind is texting, which does not seem to
have caught on their like Europe & Australia.

Another chance for the phone companies to rip us off!

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Old October 12th 04, 12:01 AM
Steve Grauman
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A UMTS handset
would work, however.


What's UMTS?
Steve Grauman
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Old October 12th 04, 12:03 AM
Steve Grauman
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Roaming at
that time was conceived as putting your, say, French or German SIM
into a US phone when travelling to North America.


So if I took the SIM out of my SE T616 and put it into a Japanese phone once I
get there, my AT&T service will then work in Japan?
Steve Grauman
 




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