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Old June 22nd 04, 08:04 AM
Mac Tabak
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Hi there, recently myhome was burgled & i lost a shed load of gear,
stereo,tv etc & my motorola A835. The phone was deactivated shortly after
being stolen, but now I have had the phone returned. I can't get it to work,
even though I have a new phone (A835), can I change the IMEI
number..willthis allow the phone to work again or is it permanatley dead!!!!
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards & TIA
MT


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Old June 22nd 04, 11:38 AM
VK3XEM
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Mac Tabak wrote:
Hi there, recently myhome was burgled & i lost a shed load of gear,
stereo,tv etc & my motorola A835. The phone was deactivated shortly after
being stolen, but now I have had the phone returned. I can't get it to work,
even though I have a new phone (A835), can I change the IMEI
number..willthis allow the phone to work again or is it permanatley dead!!!!
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards & TIA
MT




Contact your Service Provider and have the IMEI number removed from the
Black list.


73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
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Old June 22nd 04, 12:49 PM
Mac Tabak
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"VK3XEM" wrote in message
om.au...
Mac Tabak wrote:
Hi there, recently myhome was burgled & i lost a shed load of gear,
stereo,tv etc & my motorola A835. The phone was deactivated shortly

after
being stolen, but now I have had the phone returned. I can't get it to

work,
even though I have a new phone (A835), can I change the IMEI
number..willthis allow the phone to work again or is it permanatley

dead!!!!
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards & TIA
MT




Contact your Service Provider and have the IMEI number removed from the
Black list.


73 de Simon, VK3XEM.




for a moment there simon I thought you were going to send me
dah-dah-dah-di-dit dah-dah-dah-di-dit's )))) Good to see a fellow ham
answering my pleafor help. I would do that but then my insurance company
will get shirty, it's a long winded story but maybe my last resort!!!!
do you know if I can change the IMEI & will this cure the problem???? Have
searched the net,but can't find this out

Regards
Mac
EX:G0TXK



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Old June 22nd 04, 03:51 PM
michael turner
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 12:49:25 +0100, Mac Tabak wrote:


"VK3XEM" wrote in message
om.au...
Mac Tabak wrote:
Hi there, recently myhome was burgled & i lost a shed load of gear,
stereo,tv etc & my motorola A835. The phone was deactivated shortly

after
being stolen, but now I have had the phone returned. I can't get it to

work,
even though I have a new phone (A835), can I change the IMEI
number..willthis allow the phone to work again or is it permanatley

dead!!!!
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards & TIA
MT




Contact your Service Provider and have the IMEI number removed from the
Black list.


73 de Simon, VK3XEM.




for a moment there simon I thought you were going to send me
dah-dah-dah-di-dit dah-dah-dah-di-dit's )))) Good to see a fellow ham
answering my pleafor help. I would do that but then my insurance company
will get shirty,


Only if you or your service-provider told them. Have you got the insurance
payout cheque yet ?

it's a long winded story but maybe my last resort!!!!
do you know if I can change the IMEI & will this cure the problem???? Have
searched the net,but can't find this out


Changing a phone's IMEI is most definately illegal (upto 5 years in
prison), and is virtually impossible on some handsets, e.g. Nokia DCT4.

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Old June 23rd 04, 12:25 AM
VK3XEM
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Mac Tabak wrote:
for a moment there simon I thought you were going to send me
dah-dah-dah-di-dit dah-dah-dah-di-dit's )))) Good to see a fellow ham
answering my pleafor help. I would do that but then my insurance company
will get shirty, it's a long winded story but maybe my last resort!!!!
do you know if I can change the IMEI & will this cure the problem???? Have
searched the net,but can't find this out

Regards
Mac
EX:G0TXK




Hi Mac!

I have heard of IMEIs being changed, but not sure how to do it, maybe
others here could explain it. I know here in Australia if you are
caught changing the IMEI you can be in a lot of trouble though.


73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
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Old June 23rd 04, 01:28 AM
Jer
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Mac Tabak wrote:
"VK3XEM" wrote in message
om.au...

Mac Tabak wrote:

Hi there, recently myhome was burgled & i lost a shed load of gear,
stereo,tv etc & my motorola A835. The phone was deactivated shortly


after

being stolen, but now I have had the phone returned. I can't get it to


work,

even though I have a new phone (A835), can I change the IMEI
number..willthis allow the phone to work again or is it permanatley


dead!!!!

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards & TIA
MT




Contact your Service Provider and have the IMEI number removed from the
Black list.


73 de Simon, VK3XEM.





for a moment there simon I thought you were going to send me
dah-dah-dah-di-dit dah-dah-dah-di-dit's )))) Good to see a fellow ham
answering my pleafor help. I would do that but then my insurance company
will get shirty, it's a long winded story but maybe my last resort!!!!
do you know if I can change the IMEI & will this cure the problem???? Have
searched the net,but can't find this out

Regards
Mac
EX:G0TXK



If you're insurance carrier has already covered your loss by paying out
on your claim, the old handset belongs to them. Call them from your new
handset and ask them where to send it.


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what we know." -- Richard Wilbur

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Old June 23rd 04, 07:58 PM
gopi
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michael turner wrote in message .. .
Changing a phone's IMEI is most definately illegal (upto 5 years in
prison), and is virtually impossible on some handsets, e.g. Nokia DCT4.


What country/ies is it illegal in? Given that this is a rather global
newsgroup, it's important to be clear which laws you are referring to.
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Old June 23rd 04, 10:20 PM
John S.
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What country/ies is it illegal in? Given that this is a rather global
newsgroup, it's important to be clear which laws you are referring to.


Well, it is illegal in the United States, the European Union and most African
Nations. It is illegal in Japan, Korea, Vietnam and Cambodia. Not sure about
Thailand but I suspect there too. I dont know but also suspect that it is also
illegal in Austrailia and New Zeland.

Most phones you cannot change the IMEI number without physically removing the
chip that is the heart of the phone and replacing it.

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Old June 23rd 04, 11:52 PM
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I would challenge those here, who are saying it's illegal to change an IMEI

The US, Europe, Africa, etc. You're telling me, that in the few years GSM
phones have been around all of these nations have agreed and legislated,
that changing an IMEI is illegal? I say horse-****.

Most of these nations have been debating for decades on gun control, abortion,
legalisation of marijuana and in the case of the EEC, super-important things like
whether a banana's the "legal" size, shape and colour to be imported. For them
to have got laws on the books criminalising the changing of a cellphone IMEI in
such a short space of time is very hard to believe.

Is it also illegal, to change to MAC address of your ethernet card? It's essentially
the same thing, as a phone's IMEI.

It's hardly surprising, that people would think it was illegal - or to want it to be
illegal. I can think of plenty reasons why someone would WANT to change their
IMEI, but none of them are legitimate. Stolen phones. Drugs. Terrorism. Is there
anyone here who can offer a legitimate reason for changing their IMEI?

But back to the point. Like I said, I would seriously challenge whether it's
"illegal" yet. Undoubtedly the phone companies would like you to think so,
maybe the manufacturers too. But have any of them really persuaded governments
to sit down and pass laws on the subject? I think I'd like to see it in writing or at
least, from a lawyer.


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Old June 24th 04, 02:58 AM
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I would challenge those here, who are saying it's illegal to change an IMEI

And you woul lose!

I say horse-****.


How little you know! I suspect that the GSM companies have lobied the local
authorities to legislate this.

Your tirade (all of the rest of which has been left out) is just that and
doesn't change the fact that it IS illegal in all the civilized world.

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