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  #11  
Old February 2nd 10, 06:46 AM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.verizon,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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In article , Carl
wrote:

The Kindle
is a highly functional device for its purpose, non-color notwithstanding,
and if I was on vacation and wanted to get my latest copy of the NY Times or
a new book, I wouldn't want to have to run around looking for some wifi
hotspot to be able to do so.


good thing you don't need to do that then.

there's a new york times application for the iphone that's been out for
about 18 months and it downloads content for offline reading. it even
won the 2009 mobie award for best news app.

http://www.nytimes.com/ref/membercenter/iphonefaq.html

The Kindle has this handled. If Apple were
serious about competing with the Kindle, they would have covered this
aspect.


it's not up to apple to write a new york times app, especially when the
new york times did it themselves.

How many nutty people are going to sign up for a data service plan
to get this thing, not even cell-phone capable, to work for them wherever
they are?


the data plan is optional. they can get the wifi only version, load it
up with content, either off their home computer or over the air, then
go to the middle of nowhere and read/watch/listen to it.

Time will tell.


yes it will.
  #12  
Old February 2nd 10, 06:49 AM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.verizon,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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el KaBong wrote:

-No multi-tasking of 3rd party applications (the reasons for this were
to not impact performance, battery life, and 3G data usage, i.e. they
don't want people streaming online radio stations in the background
the whole day). No surprise considering the iPhone has the same
restriction.

http://www.pandora.com/on-the-iphone


It says nothing about it being able to run in the background in iPhones.
Well, of course we all know it will be able if it is jailbroken but that
doesn't really matter in this discussion.
--
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Errare humanum est, sed in errore perseverare turpe
  #13  
Old February 2nd 10, 09:17 AM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.verizon,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Todd Allcock[_2_]
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At 01 Feb 2010 22:48:12 -0700 Michelle Steiner wrote:
In article ,
"Carl" wrote:

The Kindle is a highly functional device for its purpose, non-color
notwithstanding, and if I was on vacation and wanted to get my latest
copy of the NY Times or a new book, I wouldn't want to have to run
around looking for some wifi hotspot to be able to do so. The Kindle

has
this handled.


How does it handle it? This is a serious question; I'm not trying to

be
antagonistic.


The Kindle includes free 3G access. The business model seems to be that
Amazon will get you to purchase enough content to cover the cost of the
delivery.

You can subscribe to electronic versions of newspapers at $5-$15/month,
or just read their webpages with the included browser if you're a
cheapskate like I am!

  #14  
Old February 2nd 10, 10:14 AM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.verizon,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
No Apples at Verizon - Verizon uses obsolete tech - not global
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On Feb 2, 12:48*am, Michelle Steiner wrote:
In article ,

*"Carl" wrote:
The Kindle is a highly functional device for its purpose, non-color
notwithstanding, and if I was on vacation and wanted to get my latest
copy of the NY Times or a new book, I wouldn't want to have to run
around looking for some wifi hotspot to be able to do so. The Kindle has
this handled.


How does it handle it? *This is a serious question; I'm not trying to be
antagonistic.



Does the original Kindle work on any US CDMA carrier other than
Sprint?

The original Kindle is CDMA and not even Amazon with their deep
pockets bothered with the expensive Verizon CDMA Network.

When Amazon wanted to improve the product for Kindle 2 they produced
the AT&T compatible version using global GSM technology.

Apple started out with the proper global wireless technology in their
first edition of the iPad.
Did you notice Apple thinks ahead?
Do you?

The original iPad will probably be around long after the first Kindle
is dead and forgotten.

  #15  
Old February 2nd 10, 10:36 AM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.verizon,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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On Feb 1, 10:35*pm, ZnU wrote:
In article
The pricing on the iWork apps is actually really interesting. Apple is
clearly trying to lead by example with the kind of pricing they want to
see for apps on the platform. I think they're working off of the theory
(apparently correct, or so some iPhone developers report) that the App
Store makes it so easy to buy apps that, if they're reasonably priced,
people just buy a lot more of them than they do for desktops, and
developers end up making more money even with the lower prices.


Free market competition with a level playing field is a beautiful
thing.

Apple has sold more than 75M iPhone OS devices, which is FIFTEEN times
the TOTAL number of Apple II's sold over the 80s.

Software development is magical, development cost is perfectly spread
over the sales base since the marginal cost of a copy is approximately
$0 (at least for a fire & forget platform like the iPhone . . . when
you sell a $50 game the buyers rightfully expect technical support).

I was lucky to work at Microprose in the 90s and got to see how a
first-rank software operation is organized. We played morning BB in
the warehouse, and at the time I didn't understand that all the boxes
in the warehouse was Bad News for the company.

Steam and the App Store are the future. ex-Palm people I know have
told me that they tried hard to bring in app sales into Palm early
last decade, but didn't have the resources or the corporate oomph to
push it through.

  #16  
Old February 2nd 10, 10:45 AM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.verizon,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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KDT wrote in news:4f858d00-7fa5-4f50-8b6f-
:

No connectivity to external devices? The iPhone SDK already allows
third party devices to interface with the dock connector .


A fanboi spewed this nonsense while standing right in front of a
wifi/bluetooth enabled, really nice HP photo injet printer at BestBuy.

"Show me a picture, any picture.", I asked. He whipped out a picture in no
time onto the little screen. "Print it here!", I said, pointing to the HP
loaded with ink and paper.

Of course, it wouldn't over wifi or bluetooth as it won't connect to
devices like the nice HP printer.

"You're so smart!", he accurately observed. "You print something and show
me." I whipped out the nasty old N800 Linux tablet, paired with the
printer in a couple of seconds and printed a full-blown, Apple webpage,
COMPLETE with the Flash logo Apple puts on them....in living colour, of
course....(c;]

He couldn't even render Apple's own webpage. It redirected him to one of
those AppleWAP simple pages iPhones display.

I followed that demo with printing a picture, a PDF page, the home
screen....and to top it off a picture from my Motorola sellphone camera
stored on the phone's external memory card.....over Bluetooth from the
phone to the tablet to the printer....pretty cool, actually.

He didn't call me a name like Michelle does. He was speechless.


--
"iPad is to computing what Etch-A-Sketch is to art!"

Larry

  #17  
Old February 2nd 10, 10:48 AM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.verizon,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Larry
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-hh wrote in news:dad2545c-bd21-4ca9-b036-
:

I thought that I'd explain to everyone that the reasons for providing
proper citations in journalistic endeavors.



My Irony Meter just blew another fuse......(c;]


--
"iPad is to computing what Etch-A-Sketch is to art!"

Larry

  #19  
Old February 2nd 10, 01:12 PM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.verizon,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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nospam wrote:
-hh wrote:
Ira wrote:
Thereís been a lot of talk recently about the Apple iPad.
Some of the criteria we


...unsubstantiated. * As such, it hardly merits any critiquing of
them, since we don't really know if they truly were from the actual
design team, or merely YA piece of fiction. *


if you've seen this person's posts before, it's very clear that much of
it is fiction.


But of course; as the saying goes, "on the Internet no one knows that
you're a dog".


No thanks, and no need. * If Ira is going to spam a bunch of public
discussion groups, he'll have to "stoop" to coming back to read &
reply in public to whatever feedback transpires.


and if you do a little digging you'll find there really isn't an ira
who specializes in smartphones at all...


A little digging produces:

http://www.taftjobs.com/

YMMV if that webpage fails to render improperly.

Such as this:
http://www.huntzinger.com/usenet/www.taftjobs.com.gif

Of course, if this "Ira" really is that Ira, then this webpage problem
will be fixed by this afternoon. Otherwise, we can conclude that this
"Ira" is merely a sockpuppet who is committing Identity Theft in
addition to AstroTurfing.


-hh
  #20  
Old February 2nd 10, 01:56 PM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.verizon,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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nospam wrote:
In article , Carl
wrote:

The Kindle
is a highly functional device for its purpose, non-color notwithstanding,
and if I was on vacation and wanted to get my latest copy of the NY Times or
a new book, I wouldn't want to have to run around looking for some wifi
hotspot to be able to do so.


good thing you don't need to do that then.

there's a new york times application for the iphone that's been out for
about 18 months and it downloads content for offline reading. it even
won the 2009 mobie award for best news app.

http://www.nytimes.com/ref/membercenter/iphonefaq.html

The Kindle has this handled. If Apple were
serious about competing with the Kindle, they would have covered this
aspect.


it's not up to apple to write a new york times app, especially when the
new york times did it themselves.

How many nutty people are going to sign up for a data service plan
to get this thing, not even cell-phone capable, to work for them wherever
they are?


Not too many! My local newspaper made an electronic edition available,
over the internet, to all subscribers when snowfall scrambled delivery
of the actual paper.

It's NOT the same. It was bad enough trying to read it on a 21"
monitor. Trying to read it on a mobile device could only be worse!

 




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