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Old June 26th 09, 02:49 AM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.t-mobile,alt.cellular.verizon
Todd Allcock[_2_]
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"News" wrote in message
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So, what we've discovered, is that phones with full HTML browsers (like
iPhones and Android) that default to "full" HTML sites use more HTML than
phones that default to mobile/WAP sites. Imagine that!

So, in effect, what they've really "discovered" was that iPhone OS users
received the majority of AdMob's mobile advertising, and view far more
HTML pages.

Congrats everyone!


Enjoy. What'll you discover next? TV viewers watch more TV advertising
than book readers?



And that iToy users are suckers, a target rich environment, for online ad
placement and exploits. Enjoy your ethereal status, fanbois!


It's hard to blame the "fanbois" for the hand they're dealt. They (at least
in the US) get unlimited data and a phone that defaults to full size web
pages instead of mobile XHTML/WAP pages.

What I miss on the iPhone browser (and maybe it's hidden in a setting
somewhere and I just haven't found it) is a "mobile view" setting like most
mobile HTML browsers offer, that use multiple user agents depending on the
browser's current mode setting to request either mobile or full websites.
Sometimes I want the "real" web experience, but usually I'd rather have a
quick-loading mobile/WAP formatted site designed for a small screen if one's
available.

Regardless of Safari Mobile's rendering abilities, (which are quite good for
a mobile browser), pinching and spreading while surfing is for the birds,
and simpler web pages are just more efficient and easier to read on a small
screen. This probably explains the popularity of iPhone apps that reformat
web content into easier to read forms, like USA Today's app that presents
the headline stories from the USA Today site in an email/RSS feed reader
type fashion.



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Old June 26th 09, 04:06 AM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.internet.wireless,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:51:52 -0400, David Moyer wrote:
Not exactly; fanbois are paving themselves into a corner.


said the Punchcard Operator to the Guy sitting in front of a Terminal in
1969


And when the terrorists knock out our all-digital world, the terminal guy
will ask, "can I borrow your keypunch and card reader?"

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Old June 26th 09, 04:45 AM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.internet.wireless,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Tim Murray[_2_]
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:10:00 -0400, ed wrote:
so why does apple tell you it's att's fault that the iphone doesn't do
tethering, ? :P


They don't tell you "it doesn't do tethering".

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Old June 26th 09, 04:46 AM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.internet.wireless,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:23:14 -0400, David Moyer wrote:
so why does apple tell you it's att's fault that the iphone doesn't do
tethering, ? :P


that's because ATT doesn't allow it since they aren't ready for the
demand. apple is ready, ATT isn't.


AT&T tethers with other phones now. I think they're just figuring out a way
to soak users for more money.

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Old June 26th 09, 05:11 AM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.internet.wireless,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
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Tim Murray wrote:

so why does apple tell you it's att's fault that the iphone doesn't do
tethering, ? :P


that's because ATT doesn't allow it since they aren't ready for the
demand. apple is ready, ATT isn't.


AT&T tethers with other phones now. I think they're just figuring out a way
to soak users for more money.


nah, they are just concerned about bandwidth as it absorbs 4, 5 million
new iphones over the next few months... once all that settles down, they
flip the switch, and rumors continue there will be no extra charge.
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Old June 26th 09, 05:26 AM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.t-mobile,alt.cellular.verizon
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"John Navas" wrote in message
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And that iToy users are suckers, a target rich environment, for online
ad
placement and exploits. Enjoy your ethereal status, fanbois!


It's hard to blame the "fanbois" for the hand they're dealt. They (at
least
in the US) get unlimited data and a phone that defaults to full size web
pages instead of mobile XHTML/WAP pages.


Most reasonably current handsets actually reformat standard Web for the
small screen.


Yes, if there's no mobile page of that particular site, and the
"reformatting" is often far less than successful on sites with frames, or
other funky formatting.

Websites with mobile versions typically serve up the mobile version based on
the handset's user agent, so the handset doesn't have to reformat anything.
Most smartphone browsers (Opera Mobile, Opera Mini, Netfront, Skyfire, IE
Mobile 6,) allow you to select whether the user agent will report the device
as a mobile device, or a desktop PC, which is important for websites with no
manual override. (YouTube, or the BBC, for example, let you toggle between
mobile and desktop versions by clicking a link on the site. Some sites
don't, and simply follow the UA.)



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Old June 26th 09, 06:28 AM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.internet.wireless,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
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At 25 Jun 2009 22:11:22 -0600 David Moyer wrote:

AT&T tethers with other phones now. I think they're just figuring out a

way
to soak users for more money.


nah, they are just concerned about bandwidth as it absorbs 4, 5 million
new iphones over the next few months... once all that settles down, they
flip the switch, and rumors continue there will be no extra charge.



"Rumors continue?" A few hours ago you just posted a link to a PC Mag
article ("AT&T Tolerates iPhone Tethering Technique") which said: "We have
said that we will offer tethering at some point in the future," [AT&T
spokesman Mark] Siegel said. "We will not say right now what the price is,
though there will be a fee."


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Old June 26th 09, 12:32 PM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.internet.wireless,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
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Tim Murray wrote:
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:23:14 -0400, David Moyer wrote:
so why does apple tell you it's att's fault that the iphone doesn't do
tethering, ? :P

that's because ATT doesn't allow it since they aren't ready for the
demand. apple is ready, ATT isn't.


AT&T tethers with other phones now.



I think they're just figuring out a way
to soak users for more money.



That's the most likely turn of events. Pay up, fanbois!
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Old June 26th 09, 02:38 PM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.internet.wireless,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
David Moyer[_2_]
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Todd Allcock wrote:

nah, they are just concerned about bandwidth as it absorbs 4, 5 million
new iphones over the next few months... once all that settles down, they
flip the switch, and rumors continue there will be no extra charge.



"Rumors continue?" A few hours ago you just posted a link to a PC Mag
article ("AT&T Tolerates iPhone Tethering Technique") which said: "We have
said that we will offer tethering at some point in the future," [AT&T
spokesman Mark] Siegel said. "We will not say right now what the price is,
though there will be a fee."


we'll see, the rumor is there will be no additional charge below the 5GB
cap.
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Old June 26th 09, 03:37 PM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.internet.wireless,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Todd Allcock[_2_]
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Default iPhone share of U.S. traffic hits 69%

At 26 Jun 2009 07:38:53 -0600 David Moyer wrote:

nah, they are just concerned about bandwidth as it absorbs 4, 5

million
new iphones over the next few months... once all that settles down,

they
flip the switch, and rumors continue there will be no extra charge.



"Rumors continue?" A few hours ago you just posted a link to a PC Mag
article ("AT&T Tolerates iPhone Tethering Technique") which said: "We

have
said that we will offer tethering at some point in the future," [AT&T
spokesman Mark] Siegel said. "We will not say right now what the price

is,
though there will be a fee."


we'll see, the rumor is there will be no additional charge below the 5GB
cap.



Good luck with that. I suspect it'll go the way of the "smaller,cheaper
iPhone with cheaper data plan" rumor.

In aggregate, iPhone users are consuming far more than their share of
system resources, and getting away with it because you're spending more
than everyone else. You're like the United States in cellular customer form.


Historically, you guys have demonstrated a wilingness to pay whatever AT&T
is asking for service, even when it lacked features other customers have (3G,
MMS.) What possible incentive does AT&T have to give you anything for free
since you'll open your wallets on demand?

Here's MY rumor, Oxy- you'll pay $30/month extra to tether, just like
smartphone users, else the tethering app will deny access. My guess is
that the delay is more about adding the appropriate "blocks" to the netork
than preparing for an "onslaught" of users. If anything, I'd suspect
iPhone users would be light tetherers. The more you use your phone for
web, email, and time wasting, the less you need to lug a computer around.


 




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