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How does a Wi-Fi only tablet route on Google Maps when on the road?



 
 
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Old March 29th 18, 10:47 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.home.repair,alt.cellular
Ragnusen Ultred
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Default How does a Wi-Fi only tablet route on Google Maps when on the road?

Recently, I noticed that, on a WiFi-only tablet, the Google Map App was
"tracking" me while on the road, where the WiFi-only tablet definitely does
not have a GPS chip nor does it have a cellular capability.
http://i.cubeupload.com/jOw0fO.gif

Since this was a surprise to me that a WiFi-only tablet could "route" on
top of an offline (aka "OK MAPS") google map while driving on the road, I
was telling someone about it, who asked this question:

Q: Is Google using previously stored WiFi AP SSIDs in the offline maps to
locate your position, or, is the tablet's Wi-Fi automatically connecting to
open APs, and hence giving away the location by that method?
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Old March 30th 18, 02:57 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.home.repair,alt.cellular
rbowman[_2_]
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Default How does a Wi-Fi only tablet route on Google Maps when on theroad?

On 03/29/2018 03:47 PM, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Q: Is Google using previously stored WiFi AP SSIDs in the offline maps to
locate your position, or, is the tablet's Wi-Fi automatically connecting to
open APs, and hence giving away the location by that method?


An app can query the GPS in your tablet and plot the position using
local geodata that was downloaded when you were connected.
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Old March 30th 18, 07:21 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.home.repair,alt.cellular
micky
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Default How does a Wi-Fi only tablet route on Google Maps when on the road?

In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:47:47 -0700, Ragnusen
Ultred wrote:

Recently, I noticed that, on a WiFi-only tablet, the Google Map App was
"tracking" me while on the road, where the WiFi-only tablet definitely does
not have a GPS chip nor does it have a cellular capability.
http://i.cubeupload.com/jOw0fO.gif


Check the rear of the car. There may be a long cord attached.

Since this was a surprise to me that a WiFi-only tablet could "route" on
top of an offline (aka "OK MAPS") google map while driving on the road, I
was telling someone about it, who asked this question:

Q: Is Google using previously stored WiFi AP SSIDs in the offline maps to
locate your position, or, is the tablet's Wi-Fi automatically connecting to
open APs, and hence giving away the location by that method?


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Old March 30th 18, 11:37 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.home.repair,alt.cellular
Paul Colquhoun
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Default How does a Wi-Fi only tablet route on Google Maps when on theroad?

On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:47:47 -0700, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
| Recently, I noticed that, on a WiFi-only tablet, the Google Map App was
| "tracking" me while on the road, where the WiFi-only tablet definitely does
| not have a GPS chip nor does it have a cellular capability.
| http://i.cubeupload.com/jOw0fO.gif


That screen shot is from an iPad. Notice the little arrow up in the top
right corner, next to the 18% battery indicator? That means GPS is
active.

I don't think Apple have ever made an iPad without a GPS chip.


| Since this was a surprise to me that a WiFi-only tablet could "route" on
| top of an offline (aka "OK MAPS") google map while driving on the road, I
| was telling someone about it, who asked this question:
|
| Q: Is Google using previously stored WiFi AP SSIDs in the offline maps to
| locate your position, or, is the tablet's Wi-Fi automatically connecting to
| open APs, and hence giving away the location by that method?


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Old March 30th 18, 01:16 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.home.repair,alt.cellular
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Default How does a Wi-Fi only tablet route on Google Maps when on theroad?

On 3/29/2018 5:47 PM, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Recently, I noticed that, on a WiFi-only tablet, the Google Map App was
"tracking" me while on the road, where the WiFi-only tablet definitely does
not have a GPS chip nor does it have a cellular capability.
http://i.cubeupload.com/jOw0fO.gif

Since this was a surprise to me that a WiFi-only tablet could "route" on
top of an offline (aka "OK MAPS") google map while driving on the road, I
was telling someone about it, who asked this question:

Q: Is Google using previously stored WiFi AP SSIDs in the offline maps to
locate your position, or, is the tablet's Wi-Fi automatically connecting to
open APs, and hence giving away the location by that method?


Are you certain it's WiFi only? I'm not a tech wizard but I cannot see
how it would connect to GPS without one.

According to Apple support, iPads with WiFi only do not have GPS
capability. iPads with WiFi and Cellular do have GPS capability.

My WiFi only iPad Air does not have GPS. I had to purchase a separate
GPS adapter to use mapping apps or connect via my phones hotspot.
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Old March 30th 18, 01:22 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.home.repair,alt.cellular
Meanie[_2_]
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Default How does a Wi-Fi only tablet route on Google Maps when on theroad?

On 3/30/2018 6:37 AM, Paul Colquhoun wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:47:47 -0700, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
| Recently, I noticed that, on a WiFi-only tablet, the Google Map App was
| "tracking" me while on the road, where the WiFi-only tablet definitely does
| not have a GPS chip nor does it have a cellular capability.
| http://i.cubeupload.com/jOw0fO.gif


That screen shot is from an iPad. Notice the little arrow up in the top
right corner, next to the 18% battery indicator? That means GPS is
active.

I don't think Apple have ever made an iPad without a GPS chip.



Then someone better tell Apple support. According to them, the WiFi only
models have no GPS capabilities. I can attest to that since my WiFi only
iPad Air isn't capable of GPS connectivity on it's own.

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Old March 30th 18, 04:34 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.home.repair,alt.cellular
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Default How does a Wi-Fi only tablet route on Google Maps when on the road?

In article , Paul
Colquhoun wrote:

| Recently, I noticed that, on a WiFi-only tablet, the Google Map App was
| "tracking" me while on the road, where the WiFi-only tablet definitely does
| not have a GPS chip nor does it have a cellular capability.
| http://i.cubeupload.com/jOw0fO.gif

That screen shot is from an iPad. Notice the little arrow up in the top
right corner, next to the 18% battery indicator? That means GPS is
active.


nope. it means an app is using location services to obtain the user's
location, which can be done without a hardware gps (and even if there
is a hardware gps, it's not always used).

I don't think Apple have ever made an iPad without a GPS chip.


they did and still do.

wifi-only ipads do not have gps or cellular.
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Old March 30th 18, 08:33 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.home.repair,alt.cellular
Meanie[_2_]
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Default How does a Wi-Fi only tablet route on Google Maps when on theroad?

On 3/29/2018 5:47 PM, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Recently, I noticed that, on a WiFi-only tablet, the Google Map App was
"tracking" me while on the road, where the WiFi-only tablet definitely does
not have a GPS chip nor does it have a cellular capability.
http://i.cubeupload.com/jOw0fO.gif

Since this was a surprise to me that a WiFi-only tablet could "route" on
top of an offline (aka "OK MAPS") google map while driving on the road, I
was telling someone about it, who asked this question:

Q: Is Google using previously stored WiFi AP SSIDs in the offline maps to
locate your position, or, is the tablet's Wi-Fi automatically connecting to
open APs, and hence giving away the location by that method?



I have to stand somewhat corrected. The above mention of Apple products
(iPads) put my mindset on that, whereas you never mentioned iPad but
simply tablets. Therefore, it's very possible other tablet brands have
GPS within their WiFi only devices. I can only attest to iPads who don't.
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Old March 30th 18, 10:40 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.home.repair,alt.cellular
Tim[_5_]
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Default How does a Wi-Fi only tablet route on Google Maps when on the road?

Meanie wrote in news
On 3/29/2018 5:47 PM, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Recently, I noticed that, on a WiFi-only tablet, the Google Map App
was "tracking" me while on the road, where the WiFi-only tablet
definitely does not have a GPS chip nor does it have a cellular
capability. http://i.cubeupload.com/jOw0fO.gif

Since this was a surprise to me that a WiFi-only tablet could "route"
on top of an offline (aka "OK MAPS") google map while driving on the
road, I was telling someone about it, who asked this question:

Q: Is Google using previously stored WiFi AP SSIDs in the offline
maps to locate your position, or, is the tablet's Wi-Fi automatically
connecting to open APs, and hence giving away the location by that
method?



I have to stand somewhat corrected. The above mention of Apple
products (iPads) put my mindset on that, whereas you never mentioned
iPad but simply tablets. Therefore, it's very possible other tablet
brands have GPS within their WiFi only devices. I can only attest to
iPads who don't.

Both my Nexus 7 (2013) and my ASUS Zenpad S 8 are wifi only and have GPS.
What I have done in the past was to select an area in Google Maps and
download it to my tablet. Maps will then use that downloaded map and
tablet's GPS to track my location on the map and give turning directions if
I have asked for them.
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Old March 30th 18, 10:48 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.home.repair,alt.cellular
Ragnusen Ultred
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Default How does a Wi-Fi only tablet route on Google Maps when on the road?

Am Thu, 29 Mar 2018 19:57:31 -0600, schrieb rbowman:

An app can query the GPS in your tablet and plot the position using
local geodata that was downloaded when you were connected.


This would make sense but I must have forgotten to mention this is a
WiFi-only tablet, in that there is neither GPS nor cellular capability.

So the location has to be by some other means than GPS.
 




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