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T-Mobile is the fastest 4G LTE network in US (according to 6 billion OpenSignal reports)



 
 
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Old January 23rd 18, 05:17 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
Harold Newton
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 23:51:56 -0500, nospam wrote:

The VP at AT&T kept giving me that "consistent bill" bull**** where I had
to constantly remind her that the phone line had a *data block* so it's
impossible to use data.


that doesn't matter.


It's rare that you say a truthful statement that even you believe, but you
are correct that, to AT&T, it didn't matter one bit that I had a data block
on the line. If the SIM was to be put into anything that they arbitrarily
listed as a 'smart phone', then it *had* to have data.

at&t's smartphone plans require data.


The service already existed and it had a data block.

The blackberry was grandfathered, but if I replaced the blackberry with
another phone, and if that other phone was on an arbitrary list of phones
that AT&T deemed to be a "smart" phone (at that time, not all phones were),
then even with the data block, they said they would charge the high data
plan.

you were trying to scam them by using a smartphone on a non-smartphone
plan and you got caught.


As usual, you think everyone thinks like you think.
I wasn't scamming anyone.
I was *asking* them how their system worked.

I didn't even *own* a smart phone at that time.
It was my first smart phone that I was considering buying.

And I didn't want data.

As usual, you think everyone thinks the devious way your brain works.

It's incomprehensible to you that someone would simply *ask* AT&T how their
plan works.

if you don't like their plans, find another provider.


Worked for me!
You haven't heard me say anything bad about T-Mobile have you?

Well, they did charge an extra $50 for the phones I bought from them on
zero-percent interest for two years - but that's really just interest.

T-Mobile even gave me *two* different cellular extendors, one a femtotower
and the other a repeater - which I can't complain about - because they saw
how big the house was in their GPS maps.

T-Mobile gives me free SIM cards all the time (I've *never* had to pay for
a SIM card ever from them), and T-Mobile gives me free data on all my iOS
devices (not much - but enough to use when I need it).

The best thing I did was get off Verizon, and then the best thing I did
after that was get off of AT&T. I'm happy with T-Mobile, where, trust me,
if I wasn't happy - I'd be complaining to you how bad they are.

But they're the best of the three IMHO, although I didn't have all three at
the same time, so I went from analog razrs to Kyocera's on Verizon, to
Blackberrys and razrs on AT&T to a variety of iOS and Android "smart"
phones on T-mobile.
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Old January 23rd 18, 05:43 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
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On 01/22/2018 09:17 PM, Harold Newton wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 20:53:45 -0600, Ant wrote:

Sure if you get good signals. In my rural area, you get nothing! Same
for others like Sprint. Verizon barely gets a signal though. :P


If you're on Verizon, and you have weak signal, don't they give you free
femtocells or free repeaters or free routers for wi-fi calling?

T-Mobile will normally give you one of those for free, but they gave me two
(which works better because my house if large).


Any chance they can supply 12V versions? I should ask the local
T-Mobile shop...

I have the free femtocell, which connects to the SOHO router, and I have a
free repeater, which has a wall unit and a house unit.

With those, I get *great* cellular signal strength inside the house.
Can't you do the same with Verizon?



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Cheers, Bev
There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness.'
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Old January 23rd 18, 06:04 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
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On 1/22/2018 6:53 PM, Ant wrote:
Sure if you get good signals. In my rural area, you get nothing! Same
for others like Sprint. Verizon barely gets a signal though. :P


It's amusing to look at the cleverly worded advertising campaigns and
pick them apart.

Remember when Cingular, was claiming "fewest dropped calls?" Not only
was it shown to be untrue, but in order to have a dropped call you first
have to have a call connect.

Then you have the claims of coverage based on the percent of the
population, instead of geographic area.

And of course the claim of the fastest data rates are amusing because
the only reason is that the network usage is sufficiently low that
there's little congestion to slow data rates. Besides that, to any user,
the difference between 8Mb/s and 80Mb/s is negligible in any
application, and would only make a difference if you're transferring
ginormous quantities of data.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/technology/article97326092.html
"RootMetrics noted T-Mobile’s network performed well in metropolitan
areas but not as well in rural markets."

https://www.cio.com/article/2972239/consumer-electronics/wireless-network-tests-prove-competition-boosts-quality-of-us-carriers.html
"T-Mobile's test results are particularly interesting. The carrier
offers very fast and reliable data service in many metro areas, but
performance drops off quickly when users leave cities. If you don't
leave your home city very often, T-Mobile may well be your best bet.
However, if you frequently travel outside of your home ground, or live
in a rural area, you might find yourself in the no-bar zone."


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Old January 23rd 18, 01:28 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
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In article , The Real Bev
wrote:


If you're on Verizon, and you have weak signal, don't they give you free
femtocells or free repeaters or free routers for wi-fi calling?

T-Mobile will normally give you one of those for free, but they gave me two
(which works better because my house if large).


Any chance they can supply 12V versions? I should ask the local
T-Mobile shop...


there is absolutely *no* point in that.
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Old January 23rd 18, 01:28 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
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If you're on Verizon, and you have weak signal, don't they give you free
femtocells or free repeaters or free routers for wi-fi calling?


all of the big four offer femtos for free.

however, it obviously won't work while not at home.
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Old January 23rd 18, 04:04 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 16:04:27 -0800, sms
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On 1/22/2018 12:46 PM, The Real Bev wrote:

On 01/22/2018 09:53 AM, sms wrote:

On 1/22/2018 9:51 AM, Harold Newton wrote:
T-Mobile finally beats Verizon to become fastest 4G LTE network in U.S.
http://mashable.com/2018/01/22/tmobile-rules-opensignal-report-2018/

Too bad about their coverage.


Ditto.¬* Friend with Verizon (or maybe Sprint) can get signal up on the
mountain while we're skiing.¬* With T-Mobile I have to drive around in
town before I can find a spot that will let me make a call.

I'm going to try my Freedompop hotspot + Hangouts next time and see if
that works any better.

If I really needed better coverage I'd have to pay a LOT more than the
$10/year it costs me now :-)


Yeah, I keep a $10/year T-Mobile phone just because I have so much money
on the account. But I can't find that phone right now.

T-Mobile coverage is fine on the eastern seaboard, but in California and
much of the west, if you ever venture outside of urban areas you're
going to be without coverage.



You're right that it's better in the east than in the west. But since
I'm rarely outside of urban areas, the coverage in the west is good
enough, and it's been fine for me everywhere.

See https://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/coverage-map for details of
coverage.

Interestingly, in ND and SD, two states that I don't think of as at
all urban, coverage is nearly universal.
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Old January 23rd 18, 04:23 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
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On 1/23/2018 8:04 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 16:04:27 -0800, sms
wrote:

On 1/22/2018 12:46 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
On 01/22/2018 09:53 AM, sms wrote:
On 1/22/2018 9:51 AM, Harold Newton wrote:
T-Mobile finally beats Verizon to become fastest 4G LTE network in U.S.
http://mashable.com/2018/01/22/tmobile-rules-opensignal-report-2018/

Too bad about their coverage.

Ditto.¬* Friend with Verizon (or maybe Sprint) can get signal up on the
mountain while we're skiing.¬* With T-Mobile I have to drive around in
town before I can find a spot that will let me make a call.

I'm going to try my Freedompop hotspot + Hangouts next time and see if
that works any better.

If I really needed better coverage I'd have to pay a LOT more than the
$10/year it costs me now :-)


Yeah, I keep a $10/year T-Mobile phone just because I have so much money
on the account. But I can't find that phone right now.

T-Mobile coverage is fine on the eastern seaboard, but in California and
much of the west, if you ever venture outside of urban areas you're
going to be without coverage.



You're right that it's better in the east than in the west. But since
I'm rarely outside of urban areas, the coverage in the west is good
enough, and it's been fine for me everywhere.


True. But a lot of Californians do also venture outside of urban areas.
You're okay with T-Mobile on the two major east-west roads, I-80 and
US50, but if you ever leave the urban core, even to travel to another
urban core, i.e. SF Bay Area to Los Angeles, or if you travel out to
most of the recreational areas and National Parks in rural areas,
T-Mobile is definitely not the carrier for you. You can just look at
their maps and figure this out!

Even on AT&T and Verizon, be careful because often the roaming that is
needed in areas where there are smaller carriers is only available on
their postpaid services, and not on their prepaid or MVNO services. I.e.
Cricket coverage is very different than AT&T postpaid coverage.

You can see the subject of this thread and how meaningless it actually
is. Being the "fastest" is of no consequence, when no user of the
second, third, or fourth fastest carrier would ever be able to tell the
difference in speed except when running a speed test. But when a carrier
can't talk about things that really matter, like geographic coverage,
they find something else to talk about. Latency and download speed are
of such extremely minor importance when they are low-enough and
high-enough, respectively, that no user would ever notice a difference,
yet one testing company gives equal weight to the carrier with
marginally faster downloads and marginally lower latency.

Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
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Old January 23rd 18, 05:50 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 12:40:25 -0500, nospam wrote:

In article , Harold Newton
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 21:43:14 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:

Any chance they can supply 12V versions? I should ask the local
T-Mobile shop...


You have to agree not to "move" them around without T-Mobile permission,
but I get your drift that they'd be great inside a car.


only if you have a very, very long ethernet cable, because:

The femtocell, which has to be attached to a router...


...

Dunno enough about this,


yep. you don't.


It's an interesting question, but kind of outside the realm of this
newsgroup so I moved the discussion over to the home, wisp, and electronics
newsgroup just now so as to better answer The Real Bev's question.

Here is the thread on the various newsgroups:
http://tinyurl.com/alt-internet-wireless
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.internet.wireless/MA_JEJ1JvKc
http://tinyurl.com/sci-electronics-repair
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.electronics.repair/keHFcrmptyk
http://tinyurl.com/alt-home-repair
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.home.repair/sWSyKnt3hDo



SUBJECT:
Could a T-Mobile repeater & femtocell be moved to a new location outside the Santa Cruz mountains?

THEORETICAL question (not a legal question!):

Given there are *huge* gains to be made in cellular signal strength...
https://u.cubeupload.com/RUsTGy.jpg

Q: Would T-Mobile *know* if I *moved* the femtocell and/or repeater to a
different location altogether than my own house?
https://u.cubeupload.com/RU3rGl.jpg

I live in the Santa Cruz mountains, where all cellular carrier signal
sucks, and I have a big house ... hence, my cellular carrier, T-Mobile,
provides me a free femtocell, and since my Internet comes from about 5
miles away over the air via WISP from another mountain, T-Mobile also gave
me a free cellular repeater.

Here's a picture of the repeater and femtocell:
https://u.cubeupload.com/sSOph0.jpg

Here is a picture of just one of my many access points inside my house:
https://u.cubeupload.com/EZvpx3.jpg

Given that there is unquestionably a *huge* signal strength advantage:
https://u.cubeupload.com/jqV5cR.jpg

The question came up in another discussion by "The Real Bev" whether the
repeater or femtocell can "realistically" be "moved" to a second or third
location.
https://u.cubeupload.com/RLxLv5.jpg

Ignoring the legality, since, as I recall, T-Mobile made me agree verbally
over the phone that I would inform them if I move them, and knowing that
the output of both transformers are 12VDC at 1.5 and 2.0 Amps, the question
is *theoretical* only!
https://u.cubeupload.com/RJ3cs6.jpg

Theoretical question:
Q: How would T-Mobile *know* if I *moved* the femtocell and/or repeater to
a different location altogether than my own house?
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Old January 23rd 18, 06:03 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
Harold Newton
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 08:28:50 -0500, nospam wrote:

If you're on Verizon, and you have weak signal, don't they give you free
femtocells or free repeaters or free routers for wi-fi calling?


all of the big four offer femtos for free.

however, it obviously won't work while not at home.


Thanks for the answer for the femtocell... (aka microcell).

Q: Do the big-four carriers offer free femtocells sans deposit?
A: Apparently, yes.

Q: Do the other big-four carriers also offer free *repeaters*?
A: ?

Q: Do any of the other big-four carriers also offer a free Wi-Fi Router?
A: ?
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Old January 23rd 18, 06:06 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 08:23:54 -0800, sms
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You can see the subject of this thread and how meaningless it actually
is. Being the "fastest" is of no consequence, when no user of the
second, third, or fourth fastest carrier would ever be able to tell the
difference in speed except when running a speed test. But when a carrier
can't talk about things that really matter, like geographic coverage,
they find something else to talk about.



I generally agree. But although you say geographic coverage really
matters, I want to point out that although it really matters to some
people, it doesn't really matter to others. As I said in my previous
message in this thread, it hardly matters at all to me.
 




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