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  #71  
Old July 11th 17, 09:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote:

wifi direct is about 5 years old and requires an updated wifi chipset

The Intel Centrino 2 chipset already had Wi-Fi Direct in 2008, so
*NINE* years ago! *Try* to keep up!


windows didn't support it, so that doesn't matter.


Ah, I *see*! *I* am *not* allowed to limit it to mobile devices, which
*is* the context of the thread,


nope. the context is a mobile device connecting to a desktop device.

but *you* *are* allowed to limit it to
Windows, which is also the contect of the thread!


*you* brought up centrino, not me.

which mobile devices had a centrino chip in 2008? none. did anyone even
*use* wifi direct in 2008? nope.

earlier today, you said wifi direct is 5 years old, now you're trying
to claim it's 9 years old.

Hypocritical much!?


you certainly are.
  #72  
Old July 11th 17, 09:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In article , Carlos E.R.
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what takes a few seconds over wifi would take *minutes* over bluetooth.


Not always in reality.


yes always in reality, unless the user ****s it up somehow or uses
horribly obsolete (and grossly insecure) equipment.

I get 25 Mbit/s out of WiFi in a busy apartment building, so the speed
is the comparable.


only because you're using an obsolete 802.11g wifi router, and/or
something is *horribly* misconfigured.


I'm using whatever the ISP there supplies.


they gave you outdated junk and it's not secure either.

buy something better.

others aren't stuck with those slow speeds.

Simply there are about 50 AP in view, so the BW goes down.


switch to 5 ghz, which is nowhere near as crowded, and if everyone else
continues to use obsolete 802.11g, you'll be the only one there.
  #73  
Old July 11th 17, 09:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In article , Carlos E.R.
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not having a lan in a house makes *no* sense. simply having a broadband
router creates a lan, even if only one device connects to it.

since this person claims to have a phone and a desktop computer *and*
is on the internet (given that he trolls the newsgroups), he has a lan.

but perhaps there's a reason. that's why i want to know why.


Well, maybe he goes to a library to use Internet and doesn't have it at
home.


libraries have lans for public use.

Or maybe his computer connects directly to an Internet modem and
there is no WiFi AP.


highly unlikely since broadband modems have wifi built in.

Maybe he doesn't live at his home, so he can not
contract Internet.Maybe he connects via mobile and USB.


the other home probably has internet.

Ask him. Maybe he will tell, maybe not. :-)


i did.

It does not matter to me.


obviously.
  #74  
Old July 11th 17, 09:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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nospam wrote:
In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote:

You're not seriously claiming that WiFi is "not well known", are you!?

point to point wifi is not well known. do try to keep up.


*I* have been talking Wifi Direct - i.e. point-to-point WiFi - from
the get go, because *you* were talking about WiFi Direct, that is until
you changed the goalposts to WiFi in general and now are changing them
back again.


i was *always* talking about wifi direct.


Then *why* the fsck are you arguing!?

You disputed my

quote

In this context - mobile devices - 5 years is a long time, i.e. *not*
"recent", period.

/quote

by

quote

the context is *wifi*.

/quote

I.e. saying the context was *not* limited to mobile devices.

BUT just now, you tried to score a point by saying that Windows did not
support Wi-Fi Direct 5-9 years back. (Which is wrong, as I mentioned in
my response to that claim of yours.)

*So in the context of this thread*, you *were* talking about (Wi-Fi
Direct) on mobile devices, because in this thread, there's only a mobile
device and a Windows PC.

So your counter "the context is *wifi*." is just a non-argument which
only caused the (non-)discussion to derail even further.

Glad we sorted that one out.

Bottom line: *Try* to keep your story straight.

EOD.
  #75  
Old July 11th 17, 09:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Default Connecting Android to Windows 10 by adding bluetooth

nospam wrote:
In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote:

wifi direct is about 5 years old and requires an updated wifi chipset


The Intel Centrino 2 chipset already had Wi-Fi Direct in 2008, so
*NINE* years ago! *Try* to keep up!


windows didn't support it, so that doesn't matter.


Wrong again. Intel provided Wi-Fi Direct support on Windows Vista.
Vista is pre-2008.
  #76  
Old July 11th 17, 09:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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On 2017-07-11 22:21, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:


what takes a few seconds over wifi would take *minutes* over bluetooth.


Not always in reality.


yes always in reality, unless the user ****s it up somehow or uses
horribly obsolete (and grossly insecure) equipment.

I get 25 Mbit/s out of WiFi in a busy apartment building, so the speed
is the comparable.

only because you're using an obsolete 802.11g wifi router, and/or
something is *horribly* misconfigured.


I'm using whatever the ISP there supplies.


they gave you outdated junk and it's not secure either.


How do you know that it is not secure? Have you tested it?


buy something better.

others aren't stuck with those slow speeds.

Simply there are about 50 AP in view, so the BW goes down.


switch to 5 ghz, which is nowhere near as crowded, and if everyone else
continues to use obsolete 802.11g, you'll be the only one there.


Ah, nice! Surely you will fund me buying a new laptop? I would
appreciate that. And don't forget the other room mates: laptops, phones,
etc. We will all appreciate your generosity.

--
Cheers, Carlos.
  #77  
Old July 11th 17, 09:43 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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On 2017-07-11 22:21, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:

not having a lan in a house makes *no* sense. simply having a broadband
router creates a lan, even if only one device connects to it.

since this person claims to have a phone and a desktop computer *and*
is on the internet (given that he trolls the newsgroups), he has a lan.

but perhaps there's a reason. that's why i want to know why.


Well, maybe he goes to a library to use Internet and doesn't have it at
home.


libraries have lans for public use.


But his home is not in the library.


Or maybe his computer connects directly to an Internet modem and
there is no WiFi AP.


highly unlikely since broadband modems have wifi built in.


Not all.
Broadband routers do have WiFi almost always.
Modems, which connect to a single computer, do not.

There are cities where you get a (single) RJ11 socket to connect your
computer to the wall in the flat. But no WiFi.


Maybe he doesn't live at his home, so he can not
contract Internet.Maybe he connects via mobile and USB.


the other home probably has internet.


What other home?


Ask him. Maybe he will tell, maybe not. :-)


i did.

It does not matter to me.


obviously.


Good!

--
Cheers, Carlos.
  #78  
Old July 11th 17, 09:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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nospam wrote:
In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote:

wifi direct is about 5 years old and requires an updated wifi chipset

The Intel Centrino 2 chipset already had Wi-Fi Direct in 2008, so
*NINE* years ago! *Try* to keep up!

windows didn't support it, so that doesn't matter.


Ah, I *see*! *I* am *not* allowed to limit it to mobile devices, which
*is* the context of the thread,


nope. the context is a mobile device connecting to a desktop device.


Exactly! *Finally* you got it!

but *you* *are* allowed to limit it to
Windows, which is also the contect of the thread!


*you* brought up centrino, not me.


I brought that up as a counter to your *5* years.

which mobile devices had a centrino chip in 2008? none.


You're joking right!? The Centrino notebook line starts in *2003*!

did anyone even
*use* wifi direct in 2008? nope.


Intel begs to differ.

earlier today, you said wifi direct is 5 years old, now you're trying
to claim it's 9 years old.


Try to keep up!

That 5 years was in the context of mobile devices, i.e. in the context
of this thread, Android devices.

Hypocritical much!?


you certainly are.


Nope. That you can't read for comprehension and can't even remember
what you wrote yourself, does not mean I'm hypocritical.
  #79  
Old July 11th 17, 09:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Default Connecting Android to Windows 10 by adding bluetooth

In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote:

You're not seriously claiming that WiFi is "not well known", are
you!?

point to point wifi is not well known. do try to keep up.

*I* have been talking Wifi Direct - i.e. point-to-point WiFi - from
the get go, because *you* were talking about WiFi Direct, that is until
you changed the goalposts to WiFi in general and now are changing them
back again.


i was *always* talking about wifi direct.


Then *why* the fsck are you arguing!?


ain't me who is arguing.
  #80  
Old July 11th 17, 09:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Default Connecting Android to Windows 10 by adding bluetooth

In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote:

wifi direct is about 5 years old and requires an updated wifi chipset

The Intel Centrino 2 chipset already had Wi-Fi Direct in 2008, so
*NINE* years ago! *Try* to keep up!


windows didn't support it, so that doesn't matter.


Wrong again. Intel provided Wi-Fi Direct support on Windows Vista.
Vista is pre-2008.


which didn't work particularly well and vista was a market failure
anyway.

from 2009:
http://pcunleashed.com/what-is-wi-fi-direct/
At the moment, Wi-Fi Direct only works well on devices that are
specifically intended to connect to one another ‹ like Rokus and
their remotes. If you have a phone and a laptop that are both Wi-Fi
Direct-enabled,*they will usually not connect to each other. The
protocol doesnšt yet allow effortless connections on all equipped
devices. Over the next couple of years, Wi-Fi Direct should evolve to
allow such connections.

it might have 'existed' but it wasn't widely used because it didn't
actually work all that well until recently, something which you even
agree with.
 




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