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  #101  
Old July 12th 17, 12:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In article , Char Jackson
wrote:

Or maybe his computer connects directly to an Internet modem and
there is no WiFi AP.

highly unlikely since broadband modems have wifi built in.

Not all.
Broadband routers do have WiFi almost always.


that's what i said.

Modems, which connect to a single computer, do not.


modems are obsolete.


That will come as a great surprise to the modem manufacturers and the
millions of people who currently use them to get Internet access via
cable or DSL. What took their place?


what part of 'modems, which connect to a single computer' is not clear?

that clearly means old obsolete dial-up modems, *not* broadband,
particularly since he singled out broadband one line prior.

not only that, but broadband modems aren't actually modems. they're
network bridges/routers.
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Old July 12th 17, 12:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In article , Carlos E.R.
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Or maybe his computer connects directly to an Internet modem and
there is no WiFi AP.

highly unlikely since broadband modems have wifi built in.

Not all.
Broadband routers do have WiFi almost always.


that's what i said.

Modems, which connect to a single computer, do not.


modems are obsolete.


Maybe in the USA, but many people are using them.


it doesn't matter how many people use them. it's obsolete technology.

there will always be laggards who use obsolete technology and it
appears that spain is full of such people.

plus, the original poster is in the usa, so that's all that matters.

you're arguing just to argue, as usual.

Hint: a modem doesn't necessarily mean a POTS thing. Rather, a fibre or
cable thing, doing perhaps 100 Mbps.


those aren't modems. they're actually network bridges/routers, and 100
mbit is relatively slow. verizon recently launched gigabit for $70/mo.

There are cities where you get a (single) RJ11 socket to connect your
computer to the wall in the flat. But no WiFi.


almost none.


To your knowledge :-P


and if someone has a phone, they aren't going to be using a modem with
an rj11 jack, so we know this is *not* what he has.


I'm not talking of those "modems".


then why did you say rj11 socket? that's a phone.
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Old July 12th 17, 12:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In article , Carlos E.R.
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I get 25 Mbit/s out of WiFi in a busy apartment building, so the speed
is the comparable.

only because you're using an obsolete 802.11g wifi router, and/or
something is *horribly* misconfigured.

I'm using whatever the ISP there supplies.

they gave you outdated junk and it's not secure either.

How do you know that it is not secure? Have you tested it?


a 15 year old router is not getting security updates anymore and hasn't
for a long, long time.


And you know it is 15 years old, how exactly?
Because it ain't.


it doesn't matter how old it is. it's 802.11g and obsolete. 802.11n
replaced it a decade ago, so even if your router was one of the last
802.11g routers to be released, it's still obsolete.

even many routers that are just 5 years old aren't getting updates
anymore.


Maybe I use openwrt.


on a router supplied by an isp, that you don't own?

what do they have to say about that?



Simply there are about 50 AP in view, so the BW goes down.

switch to 5 ghz, which is nowhere near as crowded, and if everyone else
continues to use obsolete 802.11g, you'll be the only one there.

Ah, nice! Surely you will fund me buying a new laptop? I would
appreciate that. And don't forget the other room mates: laptops, phones,
etc. We will all appreciate your generosity.


nearly all laptops made in the last 10 years or so have 802.11n, most
android phones in the last several years do as well, and an 802.11n
router is less than us$20.

surely you can afford that.

split it among your roommates, and it'll be less than $10 each.


No split. Each one wants a new laptop 5G capable. You provide it, be
generous.


as i said, most laptops made in the past 10 years and certainly the
last 5 years have 5 ghz 802.11n (possibly 802.11ac).

unless you're using a laptop that's as old as your router, you already
have 5 ghz radios.
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Old July 12th 17, 12:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In article , Lucifer
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wifi does not need a lan or an access point. it can go direct between
two devices.

It is well known.

it's not well known, as it's a fairly recent addition to the spec and
only recent wifi radios support it.

FSVSVO "recent", unless you consider 5 years to be "recent".


wifi is ~20 years old, so yes, and its still not widely adopted yet
including android, which will be in 'o', a system that doesn't even
have an official name.

https://developer.android.com/preview/features/wifi-aware.html


Totally unnecessary as wi-fi already implements ad-hoc.


it's not ad hoc and is *way* easier than ad hoc can ever hope to be. ad
hoc is a pain in the ass.
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Old July 12th 17, 12:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In article , Char Jackson
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I get 25 Mbit/s out of WiFi in a busy apartment building, so the speed
is the comparable.


only because you're using an obsolete 802.11g wifi router, and/or
something is *horribly* misconfigured.

don't assume that your super-****ty wifi is how it is for everyone else.

i get roughly gigabit speeds over wifi (just under 900 mbit).


That's with your "under $20" WiFi router? What's the make and model
number? I may want one for myself.


i didn't say mine was under $20.

i said an 802.11n router could be had for under $20, especially for
someone who has to beg for money to pay for it, and that's going to be
an order of magnitude faster.
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Old July 12th 17, 02:42 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Powerful Bluetooth hardware is the correct answer to the question.

This question is just asking advice about which powerful Bluetooth hardware
(make and model) people actually use and like best to connect an Android
device to a Windows PC.


Another option is a bluetooth speaker. They can be just as loud as
desktop speakers and can power from batteries and be used while
recharging.


Not useful for file transfers.


No need for file transfer if OP just wanted to listen to multimedia
files from his Android while using a more powerful speaker.
  #107  
Old July 12th 17, 04:00 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 11 Jul 2017 07:29:30 +0000 (UTC), Dan
Jenkins wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 01:02:13 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

Ad hoc WiFi mode might be a possibility. No LAN required.

https://www.howtogeek.com/180649/htg-explains-whats-the-difference-between-ad-hoc-and-infrastructure-mode/


Thank you for suggesting a Wi-Fi option because currently there is no
bluetooth or Wi-Fi card in the desktop so either would be an option.

Would either type of hardware satisfy the requirements of transferring
small (megabyte-sized) files and playing songs between Android & Windows?
(1) Add a Wi-Fi card to the desktop and put it in "Ad-Hoc Mode"
(2) Add a Bluetooth card to the desktop that can go through floors


You keep saying card, but i wanted to point out that one that plugs into
a USB port, a dongle I guess it is called, can easily be transferred to
another computer. Sometimes cards can't be transferred at all because
the slots change, PCI, etc. etc.

Which do you think would penetrate floors best?


Wow, I see that wifi dongles are now almost no bigger than BT dongles.
I bought a couple at a hamfest a few years ago and they were as big as
bic lighters.

I also see some have 5 or 6" antennas and some have no visible antenna.
I presume a bigger antenna is better??

  #108  
Old July 12th 17, 04:01 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:50:15 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Char Jackson
wrote:

I get 25 Mbit/s out of WiFi in a busy apartment building, so the speed
is the comparable.

only because you're using an obsolete 802.11g wifi router, and/or
something is *horribly* misconfigured.

don't assume that your super-****ty wifi is how it is for everyone else.

i get roughly gigabit speeds over wifi (just under 900 mbit).


That's with your "under $20" WiFi router? What's the make and model
number? I may want one for myself.


i didn't say mine was under $20.

i said an 802.11n router could be had for under $20, especially for
someone who has to beg for money to pay for it, and that's going to be
an order of magnitude faster.


You can get a working keyboard for free and then you can
type like a grown up.
  #109  
Old July 12th 17, 04:06 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:50:14 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Lucifer
Morningstar wrote:

wifi does not need a lan or an access point. it can go direct between
two devices.

It is well known.

it's not well known, as it's a fairly recent addition to the spec and
only recent wifi radios support it.

FSVSVO "recent", unless you consider 5 years to be "recent".

wifi is ~20 years old, so yes, and its still not widely adopted yet
including android, which will be in 'o', a system that doesn't even
have an official name.

https://developer.android.com/preview/features/wifi-aware.html


Totally unnecessary as wi-fi already implements ad-hoc.


it's not ad hoc and is *way* easier than ad hoc can ever hope to be. ad
hoc is a pain in the ass.


Like pushing a shift key sometimes?
  #110  
Old July 12th 17, 04:08 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:16:15 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:

In article , ,
Dan Jenkins says...

On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 22:59:43 -0400, nospam wrote:

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN

apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.


Thank you for trying to help but please don't try to help if you're going
to completely ignore the original post by suggesting everything I already
know and which has nothing whatsoever to do with the original question.

Powerful Bluetooth hardware is the correct answer to the question.

WiFi is impossible for a PC that is not even on a LAN.
USB cable is inconvenient when going from floor to floor.
Same with speaker cables.

Powerful Bluetooth hardware is the correct answer to the question.

This question is just asking advice about which powerful Bluetooth hardware
(make and model) people actually use and like best to connect an Android
device to a Windows PC.


You would still be better, IMO, to use WiFi. It's so much faster, and
probably cheap as chips to purchase a WiFi USB stick vs Bluetooth (OK,
maybe about the same $).

And just do peer-to-peer - phone to PC - on WiFi. *Much* faster - than
Bluetooth.


Bluetooth is very slow at 1 Mb/s but is adequate for small files.
 




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