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Old September 20th 16, 08:06 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
PAS[_2_]
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On 9/20/2016 1:02 PM, Horace Algier wrote:
On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 11:42:45 -0400, PAS wrote:

There's no free lunch or phone. The trade-in has value, say $300.00 for
example. You're handing them $300.00 and getting an iPhone 7. Your plan
also has built-in cost that pays for subsidized phones. Whether you
think so or not, or whether or not the fine print indicates, you're
paying for that iPhone 7.

You bring up perfectly valid points, which I don't think *anyone* is
disagreeing with, since they're pretty commononly excepted truisms...

1. There is no free lunch or free phone
2. The postpaid service plan has a built-in cost that subsidizes phones

To clarify, while we never *paid* for the cracked-screen 64GB iPhone 6, it
has a "value", which you asssessed at $300, so I'll accept that as its
value.

Following your lead, we could *sell* the old 64GB iPhone 6 for $300 cash,
and, then *buy* an unlocked Qualcomm-modem 32GB iPhone 7 for $650 plus
about $50 sales tax.

So the iPhone 7 would cost $400 in the end.

As for the postpaid "service plan", remember that I already have 4 phones
on the *best* service plan in my area, bar none, for what "I" need, which
is:
a. Unlimited calls and texts (free USA calls)
b. Some data (currently 4GB/month/phone)
c. Travel goodies (20 cents/minute calls & unlimited data in Europe)

Despite all the duplicitously coy responses to the contrary from Rod Speed,
*nobody* can find a *better* postpaid priceerformance plan with similar
coverage in the Silicon Valley area. Nobody.

Not on T-Mobile.
Not on Verizon.
Not on AT&T.

Not even Google Fi (which is relatively close though but it requires all
new phones!).

These are the best cell phone plans and deals out there
DATE: Monday, September 19th 2016
http://www.clark.com/best-cell-phone-deals-for-2016

Since *nobody* can find a better plan than I can, we leave it that, yes,
the phones are subsidized by the plan, but they'd have to be subsidized
anyway - whether or not I get the "free" iPhone 7.


I doubt you'll find a cheaper plan than the one you are already on. May
I ask how long you've had this plan?

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Old September 20th 16, 08:19 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
Rod Speed
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Horace Algier wrote
PAS wrote


There's no free lunch or phone. The trade-in has value, say
$300.00 for example. You're handing them $300.00 and getting
an iPhone 7. Your plan also has built-in cost that pays for
subsidized phones. Whether you think so or not, or whether
or not the fine print indicates, you're paying for that iPhone 7.


You bring up perfectly valid points, which I don't think *anyone* is
disagreeing with, since they're pretty commononly excepted truisms...


You have in fact repeatedly claimed that the 7 would
be a free phone when it is nothing of the kind.

1. There is no free lunch or free phone
2. The postpaid service plan has a built-in cost that subsidizes phones


To clarify, while we never *paid* for the cracked-screen 64GB iPhone 6, it
has a "value", which you asssessed at $300, so I'll accept that as its
value.


Following your lead, we could *sell* the old 64GB iPhone 6 for $300 cash,
and, then *buy* an unlocked Qualcomm-modem 32GB iPhone 7 for $650 plus
about $50 sales tax.


So the iPhone 7 would cost $400 in the end.


As for the postpaid "service plan", remember that I already have 4 phones
on the *best* service plan in my area, bar none, for what "I" need,


Another lie.

which is:
a. Unlimited calls and texts (free USA calls)
b. Some data (currently 4GB/month/phone)
c. Travel goodies (20 cents/minute calls & unlimited data in Europe)


Despite all the duplicitously coy responses to the contrary from Rod
Speed,


More of your bare faced lies.

*nobody* can find a *better* postpaid priceerformance plan
with similar coverage in the Silicon Valley area. Nobody.


No one has actually been stupid enough to waste their
time because you would just ignore everything.

Not on T-Mobile.
Not on Verizon.
Not on AT&T.


More of your lies.

Not even Google Fi (which is relatively close
though but it requires all new phones!).


These are the best cell phone plans and deals out there
DATE: Monday, September 19th 2016
http://www.clark.com/best-cell-phone-deals-for-2016


Wrong, as always.

Since *nobody* can find a better plan than I can,


More of your lies.

we leave it that, yes, the phones are subsidized by the plan,


So they arent in fact free at all.

but they'd have to be subsidized anyway -
whether or not I get the "free" iPhone 7.


Even sillier than you usually manage.

And it makes a hell of a lot more sense to keep the
6 until the design fault manifests and see apple
replace it when that happens, with a phone with
at least as much memory, and no sales tax to pay,

But again, you just keep ignoring what everyone
tells you, so no one is going to bother rubbing your
stupid pig ignorant nose in what is better value for
you than that ripoff plan you are currently stupid
enough to use.

  #43  
Old September 21st 16, 07:02 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
Horace Algier
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 14:06:25 -0400, PAS wrote:

I doubt you'll find a cheaper plan than the one you are already on. May
I ask how long you've had this plan?


When I left AT&T, they were forcing people with new plans to have data, and
it was when I was still using a Blackberry so, it was about 5 years ago
that I left AT&T for T-mobile.

At that time, I had a $60/month family plan of 4 phones with zero data, and
I was fine with that.

I wish I had kept it, but I travel to Europe so often that I needed the
Euro bonuses of the $100/month plan, which was 20 cents a minute in Europe
for any call and unlimited data in Europe.

I've been on *that* $100/month plan for a couple of years now.
They no longer offer it, but just today I called T-Mobile and they tried to
get me on this plan:

T-Mobile ONE
- automatic payment
- $140/month for 4 phones
- Unlimited talk & text & data
- Some additional Euro goodies (not worth much though)

So, basically, for $40/month for 4 phones, I can get all 4 on unlimited
data where they can "tether" at 3G speeds. When asked what tethering meant
to them, they gave me BS so I asked for the second level of support, and
what they call "tethering" is actually hot spotting because no cable is
involved.

So, for 4 phones, my choices a
a. $100/month with currently 4GB of data per phone (nominally 2.5 GB)
b. $140/month with unlimited data (and unlimited 3G hot spotting)

Since I'm fine with the 4GB of data (only one person in the group, which
includes more than the local family uses any data at all) the $100/month
plan for 4 phones is just fine.

There is no better plan that anyone actually *knows* about, although Rod
Speed and nospam (as always) allude coyishly to mysterious non-existent
plans, just because they have nothing to offer of any concrete value.

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Old September 21st 16, 07:02 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
Horace Algier
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 13:32:11 -0400, nospam wrote:

'better' depends on each person's needs anyway. what's better for one
person is worse for another.


The fact there are only a few plans per carrier belies your statement.

Fact is, there aren't as varied needs as you imply.

a. Most get unlimited USA talk nowadays, but some could do with a lot less
b. Most get unlimited text nowadays, but some could do with a lot less
c. Most have a GB or so of data nowadays, but some could do with a lot less

That's about it for the basic needs of *most* people.
The fact that the carriers don't offer a lot of different plans shows that.

You are welcome to disagree with me on minor points (e.g., 1GB of data
versus 2GB of data) but it doesn't change the overall fact that there are
really only a couple of levels of service overall for the postpaid family
plans that I was discussing.

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Old September 21st 16, 09:03 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
Rod Speed
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"Horace Algier" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 14:06:25 -0400, PAS wrote:

I doubt you'll find a cheaper plan than the one you are already on. May
I ask how long you've had this plan?


When I left AT&T, they were forcing people with new plans to have data,
and
it was when I was still using a Blackberry so, it was about 5 years ago
that I left AT&T for T-mobile.

At that time, I had a $60/month family plan of 4 phones with zero data,
and
I was fine with that.

I wish I had kept it, but I travel to Europe so often that I needed the
Euro bonuses of the $100/month plan, which was 20 cents a minute in Europe
for any call and unlimited data in Europe.

I've been on *that* $100/month plan for a couple of years now.
They no longer offer it, but just today I called T-Mobile and they tried
to
get me on this plan:

T-Mobile ONE
- automatic payment
- $140/month for 4 phones
- Unlimited talk & text & data
- Some additional Euro goodies (not worth much though)

So, basically, for $40/month for 4 phones, I can get all 4 on unlimited
data where they can "tether" at 3G speeds. When asked what tethering meant
to them, they gave me BS so I asked for the second level of support, and
what they call "tethering" is actually hot spotting because no cable is
involved.

So, for 4 phones, my choices a
a. $100/month with currently 4GB of data per phone (nominally 2.5 GB)
b. $140/month with unlimited data (and unlimited 3G hot spotting)

Since I'm fine with the 4GB of data (only one person in the group, which
includes more than the local family uses any data at all) the $100/month
plan for 4 phones is just fine.

There is no better plan that anyone actually *knows* about, although Rod
Speed and nospam (as always) allude coyishly to mysterious non-existent
plans, just because they have nothing to offer of any concrete value.


More of your bare faced lies. We don’t bother because
you ignore anything anyone ever finds for you.

  #46  
Old September 21st 16, 09:09 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
Rod Speed
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Horace Algier wrote
nospam wrote


'better' depends on each person's needs anyway.
what's better for one person is worse for another.


The fact there are only a few plans per carrier


Another bare faced pig ignorant lie.

belies your statement.


Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
never ever had a ****ing clue about anything at all, ever.

Fact is, there aren't as varied needs as you imply.


Even sillier than you usually manage, and he didn’t imply, he stated.

a. Most get unlimited USA talk nowadays,


You have no ****ing idea if that is true or not.

but some could do with a lot less


b. Most get unlimited text nowadays,


You have no ****ing idea if that is true or not.

but some could do with a lot less


c. Most have a GB or so of data nowadays,


You have no ****ing idea if that is true or not.

but some could do with a lot less


That's about it for the basic needs of *most* people.


You have no ****ing idea if that is true or not.

The fact that the carriers don't offer a lot of different plans


Because the resellers do that, ****wit.

shows that.


Pig arse it does.

You are welcome to disagree with me on minor points


We are welcome to expose your lies for the world to point and laugh at.

(e.g., 1GB of data versus 2GB of data) but it doesn't change the
overall fact that there arereally only a couple of levels of service
overall for the postpaid family plans that I was discussing.


Because you stupidly restrict yourself to the carriers themselves.

 




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