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Old September 14th 16, 10:07 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
Horace Algier
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Default There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails)

This is just FYI as I just got off the phone with USA T-Mobile because they
lied (four times) telling me that they lock *all* their phones when there
is a balance due on the phone (which just isn't true).

However, if your phone from T-Mobile is carrier locked, and if 40 days have
passed (even if you owe money for the phone) but your service is paid up
and not past due and your account isn't suspended, then T-Mobile *will*
unlock your phone.

There are TWO ways to T-mobile suggests you unlock your phone:
1. Ask them to email you an unlock code email (which you knew about)
2. Use the App Store unlock app (which is news to me as of today)

HERE IS THE IOS UNLOCK APP:
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-14011

HERE IS THE ANDROID UNLOCK APP:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....simlock&hl=en

This unlock topic came up when I asked T-Mobile (multiple times) if the new
"free" iPhone6-to-iPhone7 trade in will be locked, to which they said
(i.e., they lied) that "all T-mobile phones are carrier locked if you owe
money on the phone".

I knew that wasn't true, but they insisted it was true, so I told them to
just send me the unlock code for the Nexus 5 that I financed from them for
two years, and this came back during the phone call, proving the Nexus 5
device was unlocked from the start (even though I owed money on it for two
years):
http://i.cubeupload.com/HpZFzy.jpg

My main point of this message is just informative:

a. Not all phones (even from the carrier & even if you owe money on them)
are locked from the outset.

b. If they are locked, T-Mobile will unlock them after 40 days, even if you
owe money on them (as long as your *service* contract is paid up at the
time).

There are two ways to unlock that phone at the 40-day mark:
1. The old way (with the email)
2. The new way (with the app)

HERE IS THE IOS UNLOCK APP:
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-14011

HERE IS THE ANDROID UNLOCK APP:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....simlock&hl=en

This is fyi.
  #2  
Old September 14th 16, 11:59 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
nospam[_2_]
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Default There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails)

In article , Horace Algier
wrote:

This is just FYI as I just got off the phone with USA T-Mobile because they
lied (four times) telling me that they lock *all* their phones when there
is a balance due on the phone (which just isn't true).


you're so in over your head.

However, if your phone from T-Mobile is carrier locked, and if 40 days have
passed (even if you owe money for the phone) but your service is paid up
and not past due and your account isn't suspended, then T-Mobile *will*
unlock your phone.

There are TWO ways to T-mobile suggests you unlock your phone:
1. Ask them to email you an unlock code email (which you knew about)
2. Use the App Store unlock app (which is news to me as of today)

HERE IS THE IOS UNLOCK APP:
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-14011


did you even *read* what's on that page???

namely this part, which is at the *top*:
Device Unlock is an Android app that allows you to request and apply
a mobile device unlock directly from the device.

HERE IS THE ANDROID UNLOCK APP:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....simlock&hl=en

This unlock topic came up when I asked T-Mobile (multiple times) if the new
"free" iPhone6-to-iPhone7 trade in will be locked, to which they said
(i.e., they lied) that "all T-mobile phones are carrier locked if you owe
money on the phone".

I knew that wasn't true, but they insisted it was true, so I told them to
just send me the unlock code for the Nexus 5 that I financed from them for
two years, and this came back during the phone call, proving the Nexus 5
device was unlocked from the start (even though I owed money on it for two
years):
http://i.cubeupload.com/HpZFzy.jpg

My main point of this message is just informative:


then you failed.

you're *so* ****ing lost.

a. Not all phones (even from the carrier & even if you owe money on them)
are locked from the outset.

b. If they are locked, T-Mobile will unlock them after 40 days, even if you
owe money on them (as long as your *service* contract is paid up at the
time).

There are two ways to unlock that phone at the 40-day mark:
1. The old way (with the email)
2. The new way (with the app)

HERE IS THE IOS UNLOCK APP:
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-14011

HERE IS THE ANDROID UNLOCK APP:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....simlock&hl=en

This is fyi.


and wrong.
  #3  
Old September 14th 16, 08:05 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
Horace Algier
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Default There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails)

On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 05:59:21 -0400, nospam wrote:

Device Unlock is an Android app that allows you to request and apply
a mobile device unlock directly from the device.


Ooops. My mistake. I apologize if there isn't an iOS app.
I have iOS devices, but they're all unlocked from the factory.
If you already know where the iOS app is, let us know.
I apologize if it doesn't exist (it didn't occur to me that it wouldn't
exist since the Android app exists - so the iOS app should also exist if
they carrier lock both types of phones).
  #4  
Old September 14th 16, 08:10 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
nospam[_2_]
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Default There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails)

In article , Anthony R.
Gold wrote:

This is just FYI as I just got off the phone with USA T-Mobile because they
lied (four times) telling me that they lock *all* their phones when there
is a balance due on the phone (which just isn't true).


you're so in over your head.

However, if your phone from T-Mobile is carrier locked, and if 40 days have
passed (even if you owe money for the phone) but your service is paid up
and not past due and your account isn't suspended, then T-Mobile *will*
unlock your phone.

There are TWO ways to T-mobile suggests you unlock your phone:
1. Ask them to email you an unlock code email (which you knew about)
2. Use the App Store unlock app (which is news to me as of today)

HERE IS THE IOS UNLOCK APP:
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-14011


did you even *read* what's on that page???

namely this part, which is at the *top*:
Device Unlock is an Android app that allows you to request and apply
a mobile device unlock directly from the device.

HERE IS THE ANDROID UNLOCK APP:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....simlock&hl=en

This unlock topic came up when I asked T-Mobile (multiple times) if the new
"free" iPhone6-to-iPhone7 trade in will be locked, to which they said
(i.e., they lied) that "all T-mobile phones are carrier locked if you owe
money on the phone".

I knew that wasn't true, but they insisted it was true, so I told them to
just send me the unlock code for the Nexus 5 that I financed from them for
two years, and this came back during the phone call, proving the Nexus 5
device was unlocked from the start (even though I owed money on it for two
years):
http://i.cubeupload.com/HpZFzy.jpg

My main point of this message is just informative:


then you failed.

you're *so* ****ing lost.

a. Not all phones (even from the carrier & even if you owe money on them)
are locked from the outset.

b. If they are locked, T-Mobile will unlock them after 40 days, even if you
owe money on them (as long as your *service* contract is paid up at the
time).

There are two ways to unlock that phone at the 40-day mark:
1. The old way (with the email)
2. The new way (with the app)

HERE IS THE IOS UNLOCK APP:
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-14011

HERE IS THE ANDROID UNLOCK APP:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....simlock&hl=en

This is fyi.


and wrong.


How wrong, brave anonymous abuser? The OP wrote that using T-Mobile's app
was an alternative to requesting the unlock code to be delivered by T-Mobile
via email for manual entry and it appears to be exactly that.


you're as lost as he is.

this has nothing whatsoever to do with unlocking.
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Old September 14th 16, 08:10 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
nospam[_2_]
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Default There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails)

In article , Horace Algier
wrote:


Device Unlock is an Android app that allows you to request and apply
a mobile device unlock directly from the device.


Ooops. My mistake. I apologize if there isn't an iOS app.
I have iOS devices, but they're all unlocked from the factory.
If you already know where the iOS app is, let us know.
I apologize if it doesn't exist (it didn't occur to me that it wouldn't
exist since the Android app exists - so the iOS app should also exist if
they carrier lock both types of phones).


you're so lost
  #6  
Old September 14th 16, 09:53 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
Horace Algier
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Default There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails)

On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 18:58:38 +0100, Anthony R. Gold wrote:

The OP wrote that using T-Mobile's app
was an alternative to requesting the unlock code to be delivered by T-Mobile
via email for manual entry and it appears to be exactly that.


You are correct.

What nospam is apparently saying is that I goofed in that I *thought* there
was *also* an iOS unlocking app from T-Mobile.

But the unlocking app is only on Android, apparently.

Other than that one mistake (that the iOS app does not exist apparently),
everything else was correct.

https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-14011
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Old September 14th 16, 09:59 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
nospam[_2_]
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Default There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails)

In article , Horace Algier
wrote:


Other than that one mistake (that the iOS app does not exist apparently),
everything else was correct.


no it wasn't.
  #8  
Old September 16th 16, 08:11 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
Horace Algier
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Default There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails)

On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 18:58:38 +0100, Anthony R. Gold wrote:

The OP wrote that using T-Mobile's app
was an alternative to requesting the unlock code to be delivered by T-Mobile
via email for manual entry and it appears to be exactly that.


Hi Anthony,
The response from nospam is classic becuase he just doesn't like anytime
Android has functionality that iOS doesn't - so - all his posts are just
sour grapes.

Anyway, I called T-Mobile today to ask for details about the app from their
second-level support team, and it turns out that there is a caveat which
you should be aware of.

This is hard to swallow, but this is what they told me:

1. You can no longer ask for an unlock code to be sent to you by email if
your phone is eligable for the app.

2. The only phones eligiable for the Android unlocking app are the Samsung
Galaxy S5 and above, and the LG phones V10 and above and a few smaller
manufacturers.

3. If you have one of those phones, you *must* use the app, they say - and
- you will be faced with two choices - one of which may be grayed out:
a. Unlock for 30 days only
b. Unlock permanently

4. Whether or not a permanent unlock is available will only depend on
whether the phone is paid off or not, according to T-Mobile.

5. However, interestingly, if you have *any other phone* (iOS or Android),
then after 40 days of use on their service, they *will* unlock it
permanently "if" you say you're going overseas.

Given that, notice that you have *more functionality* if you *don't* have
the phones which quality for the Android app - in that you can permenantly
unlock any phone when going overseas after 40 days *except* those listed
phones, even if you still *owe* a balance on the phone!

Bear in mind, I was *extremely clear* with T-Mobile when I asked them these
questions, as I explicitly mentioned that I plan on giving the phone to
another person once I trade it in, and they said that as long as I stayed
on the T-Mobile service for 2 years, they don't care what I do with the
phone.

3.
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Old September 16th 16, 08:46 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
nospam[_2_]
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Default There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails)

In article , Horace Algier
wrote:


The OP wrote that using T-Mobile's app
was an alternative to requesting the unlock code to be delivered by T-Mobile
via email for manual entry and it appears to be exactly that.


Hi Anthony,
The response from nospam is classic becuase he just doesn't like anytime
Android has functionality that iOS doesn't - so - all his posts are just
sour grapes.


i have no problem with android having functionality that ios doesn't
which is why i have android devices in addition to ios devices.

i do have a problem with those who lie about what ios can and cannot
do, lie about what i say or think and in general, talk out their ass.



Bear in mind, I was *extremely clear* with T-Mobile when I asked them these
questions, as I explicitly mentioned that I plan on giving the phone to
another person once I trade it in, and they said that as long as I stayed
on the T-Mobile service for 2 years, they don't care what I do with the
phone.


as long as you keep paying for the phone, why would they care what you
do with it?

you wanted something for free. it ain't free.
  #10  
Old September 16th 16, 09:30 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular
Horace Algier
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Default There are now "unlock" apps on the app store (in addition to unlock emails)

On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:46:20 -0400, nospam wrote:

as long as you keep paying for the phone, why would they care what you
do with it?

you wanted something for free. it ain't free.


With respect to the trade-in-deal with T-Mobile, where you trade in an
iPhone 6 for an iPhone 7, you never *pay* for the phone. The fine print
shows that you simply *get* the phone.

What you do with the phone after you receive it is your business.
T-Mobile doesn't care *what* you do with the *phone*.

They only care that you stay on your current T-Mobile *service* for two
years.

That you can't distinguish between *service* and *phone* is disturbingly
obvious.
 




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