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Confirmed: You don't need a data plan for Android voice-to-texttexting!



 
 
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Old May 16th 13, 08:55 PM posted to alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.cellular.gsm,alt.cellular.t-mobile
Frak Jones
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Default Confirmed: You don't need a data plan for Android voice-to-texttexting!

This group and elsewhere was confusing on the answer of whether you need
a data plan to use Android voice-to-texting features.

Some say you needed a data plan; others said you didnt.
Most didn't seem to realize the question was *only* regarding SMS texting
(and not navigation, web searches, S-voice, etc.).

So I stopped off at the T-Mobile store today and asked why I can use text-
to-voice without a data plan, and, they confirmed the Google Voice-to-
text feature uses MMS, and not data.

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Old May 17th 13, 12:19 AM posted to alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.cellular.gsm,alt.cellular.t-mobile
DevilsPGD[_4_]
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Default Confirmed: You don't need a data plan for Android voice-to-text texting!

In the last episode of , Frak Jones
said:

This group and elsewhere was confusing on the answer of whether you need
a data plan to use Android voice-to-texting features.


Google's voice recognition does, by default, use data. You can download
a file (currently 22MB) to enable local, offline, speech recognition.

So I stopped off at the T-Mobile store today and asked why I can use text-
to-voice without a data plan, and, they confirmed the Google Voice-to-
text feature uses MMS, and not data.


They're idiots, and they're wrong, no MMS is used by this feature unless
you happen to be using this feature to send MMS content.

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Old May 17th 13, 01:48 AM posted to alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.cellular.gsm,alt.cellular.t-mobile
cameo
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Default Confirmed: You don't need a data plan for Android voice-to-texttexting!

On 5/16/2013 3:19 PM, DevilsPGD wrote:
In the last episode of , Frak Jones
said:

This group and elsewhere was confusing on the answer of whether you need
a data plan to use Android voice-to-texting features.


Google's voice recognition does, by default, use data. You can download
a file (currently 22MB) to enable local, offline, speech recognition.


What file is that and is it in the Play Store?

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Old May 20th 13, 04:41 AM posted to alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.cellular.gsm,alt.cellular.t-mobile
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Default Confirmed: You don't need a data plan for Android voice-to-text texting!

In the last episode of , cameo
said:

On 5/16/2013 3:19 PM, DevilsPGD wrote:
In the last episode of , Frak Jones
said:

This group and elsewhere was confusing on the answer of whether you need
a data plan to use Android voice-to-texting features.


Google's voice recognition does, by default, use data. You can download
a file (currently 22MB) to enable local, offline, speech recognition.


What file is that and is it in the Play Store?


On a Nexus 7, go to Settings -- Language & Input -- Google Voice
typing (click the "Settings" button), then "Download offline..."

--
The nice thing about standards, there is enough for everyone to have their own.
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Old May 21st 13, 02:47 AM posted to alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.cellular.gsm,alt.cellular.t-mobile
Frak Jones
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Default Confirmed: You don't need a data plan for Android voice-to-texttexting!

On Thu, 16 May 2013 15:19:39 -0700, DevilsPGD wrote:

Google's voice recognition does, by default, use data. You can download
a file (currently 22MB) to enable local, offline, speech recognition.


Here is a video I just made for you of what I'm doing to test this:
http://youtu.be/ckfdgUH7hAs

Note that I have a data block, and, Google voice-to-text works fine
without WiFi. In fact, that's why I stopped off at the T-Mobile store, to
ask why the data block wasn't working - and they confirmed that I have a
data block and that it is working.

They said the voice to text has nothing to do with data (it's MMS, they
said).

And, I must say, voice-to-text works, even when WiFi is turned off.
So, I'm inclined to believe them.

Note: We're not talking about anything other than the translation of
voice to text messages. And, I'm on a Samsung Galaxy SIII if that matters.

They're idiots, and they're wrong, no MMS is used by this feature unless
you happen to be using this feature to send MMS content.


Well, it's not using WiFi (because I can turn that off and I can still
translate voice to text), and it's not using data because I don't have a
data plan.

In fact, I just turned WiFi off, and tested it by opening up messaging
and said "testing testing 123", and it translated that into text.

Without data.
Without wifi.

How is that?

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Old May 21st 13, 07:38 AM posted to alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.cellular.gsm,alt.cellular.t-mobile
DevilsPGD[_4_]
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Default Confirmed: You don't need a data plan for Android voice-to-text texting!

In the last episode of , Frak Jones
said:

On Thu, 16 May 2013 15:19:39 -0700, DevilsPGD wrote:

Google's voice recognition does, by default, use data. You can download
a file (currently 22MB) to enable local, offline, speech recognition.


Here is a video I just made for you of what I'm doing to test this:
http://youtu.be/ckfdgUH7hAs

Note that I have a data block, and, Google voice-to-text works fine
without WiFi. In fact, that's why I stopped off at the T-Mobile store, to
ask why the data block wasn't working - and they confirmed that I have a
data block and that it is working.

They said the voice to text has nothing to do with data (it's MMS, they
said).


You're confusing a couple different things here. The method you're using
to enter text has nothing at all to do with what you do with that text.

Go switch to Airplane mode and note that you can still use
speech-to-text? This is being done locally, on-device.

Once the speech is converted to text, you can choose to send it via
whatever method is available to you.

They're idiots, and they're wrong, no MMS is used by this feature unless
you happen to be using this feature to send MMS content.


Well, it's not using WiFi (because I can turn that off and I can still
translate voice to text), and it's not using data because I don't have a
data plan.

In fact, I just turned WiFi off, and tested it by opening up messaging
and said "testing testing 123", and it translated that into text.

Without data.
Without wifi.

How is that?


It's done off-line, on the device itself, without external assistance.

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Old May 21st 13, 04:13 PM posted to alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.cellular.gsm,alt.cellular.t-mobile
Frak Jones
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Default Confirmed: You don't need a data plan for Android voice-to-texttexting!

On Mon, 20 May 2013 22:38:20 -0700, DevilsPGD wrote:

You're confusing a couple different things here.


I appreciate the help; but I'm confused where I'm confused.

The title of this thread says:
"You don't need a data plan for Android voice-to-text texting!"

But, many people still said you did need a data plan.
Didn't I just confirm that the Subject of this thread is correct?

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Old May 22nd 13, 07:50 AM posted to alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.cellular.gsm,alt.cellular.t-mobile
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Default Confirmed: You don't need a data plan for Android voice-to-text texting!

In the last episode of , Frak Jones
said:

On Mon, 20 May 2013 22:38:20 -0700, DevilsPGD wrote:

You're confusing a couple different things here.


I appreciate the help; but I'm confused where I'm confused.

The title of this thread says:
"You don't need a data plan for Android voice-to-text texting!"

But, many people still said you did need a data plan.
Didn't I just confirm that the Subject of this thread is correct?


You've absolutely correct. But suggesting it uses MMS is disingenuous,
SMS and MMS isn't used for voice-to-text either.

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The nice thing about standards, there is enough for everyone to have their own.
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Old May 22nd 13, 06:39 PM posted to alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.cellular.gsm,alt.cellular.t-mobile
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Default Confirmed: You don't need a data plan for Android voice-to-texttexting!

On Tue, 21 May 2013 22:50:49 -0700, DevilsPGD wrote:

You've absolutely correct. But suggesting it uses MMS is disingenuous,
SMS and MMS isn't used for voice-to-text either.


Ah, I see. I appreciate the clarifications, and your patience.

I was simply trying to find out the answer to the question since
I have no intention of getting a data plan - yet - the voice to
text is so very important that it was a godsend that it works
without having a data plan.

In fact, I want to get my wife an Android phone, so that she can
do voice to text ... so I needed to figure out if it was a Samsung
thing or not - since the phone I get for her might be a ZTE Concord
(as she doesn't need the other Android bells and whistles).

BTW, just to be clear, *I* didn't suggest it uses MMS; that is only
what I was told by the T-Mobile store when I asked if my data block
wasn't working. The T-Mobile counterperson said it uses MMS.

But now I'm curious if it will work on another phone, or if it only
works on the Samsung Galaxy S3.

If it doesn't use data, and if it doesn't use MMS, what specific
application is voice-to-text using? (I ask so that I make sure
*that* application runs on whatever phone I buy for my wife.)

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Old May 22nd 13, 07:36 PM posted to alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.cellular.gsm,alt.cellular.t-mobile
DevilsPGD[_4_]
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Default Confirmed: You don't need a data plan for Android voice-to-text texting!

In the last episode of , Fran Jones
said:

On Tue, 21 May 2013 22:50:49 -0700, DevilsPGD wrote:

You've absolutely correct. But suggesting it uses MMS is disingenuous,
SMS and MMS isn't used for voice-to-text either.


Ah, I see. I appreciate the clarifications, and your patience.

I was simply trying to find out the answer to the question since
I have no intention of getting a data plan - yet - the voice to
text is so very important that it was a godsend that it works
without having a data plan.

In fact, I want to get my wife an Android phone, so that she can
do voice to text ... so I needed to figure out if it was a Samsung
thing or not - since the phone I get for her might be a ZTE Concord
(as she doesn't need the other Android bells and whistles).

BTW, just to be clear, *I* didn't suggest it uses MMS; that is only
what I was told by the T-Mobile store when I asked if my data block
wasn't working. The T-Mobile counterperson said it uses MMS.

But now I'm curious if it will work on another phone, or if it only
works on the Samsung Galaxy S3.


It should work on any Android device, unless the manufacturer takes
steps to avoid having it work (or replaces it with something less
functional). It works on my Nexus 7 tablet, which is a stock Google
Android experience.

If it doesn't use data, and if it doesn't use MMS, what specific
application is voice-to-text using? (I ask so that I make sure
*that* application runs on whatever phone I buy for my wife.)


Unless your Android device manufacturer does something to override it,
it's just a data entry method, it's not app specific. In other words,
from the app's point of view, it's part of the keyboard.

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