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Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps?



 
 
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  #11  
Old September 24th 16, 12:25 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,alt.internet.wireless
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Default Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps?

In article , Horace Algiers
wrote:


Since iOS has the engine bay welded shut, iOS users have no possibility of
blueprinting the engine, nor choosing which gear they'll be in. . All they
can do is point the thing.


more trolling, and it doesn't.

you're just too stupid to figure out how to pop its hood, even though
people tell you where the hood release is.
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Old September 24th 16, 12:37 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,alt.internet.wireless
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 19:25:01 -0400, nospam wrote:

you're just too stupid to figure out how to pop its hood, even though
people tell you where the hood release is.


If I'm too stupid to figure out how to set up an automatic call recorder,
then so are you.

If I'm too stupid to figure out how to set up the desktop like I already do
on all other platforms, then you are too (since it can't be done due to iOS
limitations imposed by Apple MARKETING.

If I'm too stupid to torrent from iOS then you are too, since Apple
disallows torrenting in non-jailbroken devices.

Heck, if I'm too stupid to simply list out all the apps installed on the
device into an *editable* text file from the device itself (without needing
a tow truck to do the *simplest* of things), then you are too - since
you're the one who advocates the towtruck hundreds upon hundreds upon
hundreds of megabytes of bloatware just to perform the simplest of tasks
which *every* other operating system can do on its own.

All you care about is:
a. *feeling* safe
b. being *stylish*
c. Limited solutions [because complexity scares you ... see (a) above]

That's why you "point" your vehicle, which has the engine welded shut, and
which uses a computer-based transmission becuase - as you said - let the
computer do *all* the thinking for you - and - of course - in abdicating
all your thinking and ability to tweak the engine - you are supremely
limited in where you can *point* the thing.

The only thing iOS users *can* do is punch buttons *already* supplied by
Apple & Developer MARKETING organizations. They can *never* go off road.

iOS is the most limiting commonly used operating system on the planet.
It's also one of the most successful.

That just means there are a *lot* of people like you on this planet.
Lots! (the other problem is that people like you also vote)
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Old September 24th 16, 05:57 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,alt.internet.wireless
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Horace Algiers schrieb am 2016-09-23 um 15:56:

On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 00:28:49 -0400, tlvp wrote:

My guess: he's apt to be saying most people don't reset their phones (or
anything else, forf that matter) to factory defaults every month or so,
with concomitant need to re-install all apps and re-establish all
settings/options/preferences. YMMV, of course


Thanks for that clarification becuase I wasn't sure which it was.

BTW, rebuilding a phone back to normal is trivially easy if you *plan*
ahead, just like rebuilding the OS on a desktop is easy if you plan ahead.

[...]

You have a kind of obsessive-compulsive disorder?

Nobody I know does reinstall his or her phones or computers on a regular
basis.



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Old September 24th 16, 06:09 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,alt.internet.wireless
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 13:56:51 +0000 (UTC), Horace Algiers wrote:

To re-install the user's data and apps is trivial since all I need to do is
copy the data hierarchy to a safe place and then re-install, one by one,


You're joking, surely. My Moto Droid X2 lists 195 apps. I'm certainly not
going spend a day a month clicking each one's .apk to re-install it, month
after month after month. (Sheesh!) But enjoy it, if that's what you do.

Cheers, -- tlvp
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Old September 24th 16, 06:12 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,alt.internet.wireless
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:21:01 +0000 (UTC), Horace Algiers wrote:

Why does a stinkin' clock need location access?


To learn what TZO to be using, perhaps :-) ? YMMV. Cheers, -- tlvp
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Old September 24th 16, 05:31 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,alt.internet.wireless
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On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 01:09:39 -0400, tlvp wrote:

You're joking, surely. My Moto Droid X2 lists 195 apps. I'm certainly not
going spend a day a month clicking each one's .apk to re-install it, month
after month after month. (Sheesh!) But enjoy it, if that's what you do.


I understand what you're saying.

What you're saying is that you have your tools and files strewn about all
over your garage workbench desktop, and if I suddenly called independent
cleaners to your house, and they piled all the tools and data that you have
strewn about on your desktop into a big box, you'd *never* be able to put
them back in the hugely disorganized mess that *was* your desktop before
the cleaners arrived.

In stark contrast, I have a desktop with as many apps as you have, but
which is well organized (and where less often used apps are accessed from
inside the app drawer apps):
http://i.cubeupload.com/uXWitP.png

And, I keep all my *data* (including app data!) in
/extSdCard/data/{my hierarchy}.

The tools are in the /extSdCard/data/software/{APKs by folder} using the
*same* folder hierarchy as my desktop uses.
http://i.cubeupload.com/vgcc7N.png

So, it *is* trivial to reinstall everything.
I don't even back things up (since they're already on the SD card).

1. I remove the SD card & SIM card (just in case).
2. I factory reset
3. I put back the SD card & SIM card

That gives me all my data (including app data!).

4. Then I reinstall all the apps, folder by folder, from the APKs.
(Notice there is no need for Google Play or F-Droid at this time!)

5. The only "complex" thing is that I have to set up things, but luckily
the file-redirector apps work just fine from their backup data.

So, the only thing I have to *manually* set up are the *permissions* which
are different from default.

Which is why you see a spate of posts from me on how to best make those
decisions of non-default setup for the apps and the operating system.

I'm always honing my setup. Every single day.
Because I'm *organized*, it's trivial to recover from a factory-default.

That holds true for Linux, iOS, Windows, or Android - although the huge
limitations of iOS make any attempt at an organized plan a shamble.
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Old September 24th 16, 05:31 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,alt.internet.wireless
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On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 06:57:50 +0200, Arno Welzel wrote:

You have a kind of obsessive-compulsive disorder?

Nobody I know does reinstall his or her phones or computers on a regular
basis.


Actually, you misunderstood, but I do agree with you that nobody factory
resets their phone on a *frequent* basis.

What you misunderstood was *why* I factory reset.

The *reason* I factory reset is that I *screw* with hundreds (and hundreds)
of settings a month. I turn off Google Play. I eliminate the Ad Id. I turn
off location access to all apps that don't need it. I disable *everything
Google* that I can get away with, etc.

In doing so, I screw things up, which happens (and I'm ok with that).

However, I'm as old as Jeff Liebermann - so I am used to rebuilding Windows
OS's on a *regular* basis. We don't have to do that nowadays, but certainly
if you're as old as Jeff and I am, you'll remember those days of "regular
OS" rebuilds.

What I learned in those days is that rebuilding the OS is easy if you plan
ahead.

How to plan ahead is easy if you learn two things!
a. Put your data in a place that is never polluted by others!
b. Your data includes your app installers & your menu hierarchy.

With those two things done, it's actually almost trivial to reset either
Windows or Android in about an hour (well, Windows takes longer because the
factory reset takes longer).

What I do, on Android, is:
A. I store all my data in the flash card in /extSdCard/data/{hierarchy}
B. I use an Android file redirector for dumb apps' data
C. I automagically save all APKs to that data hierarchy
D. I maintain a well-organized single desktop screen which I screenshot
just before a factory reset (so that I can easily reproduce it if want to)

Notice whether I'm on Windows, Linux, iOS, or Android, I *organize* my apps
and data the *same* way.

For example, on both computers and mobile devices, I have a "browser"
folder because I browse the web and Tor equally on all platforms.

Likewise, I have a "communication" folder, where I perform communications
tasks such as email and chat and text on all platforms.

Similarly, on all platforms, I have an "editor" folder where I store
picture editors, and video players, and audio recording and editing apps.

My premise is that we all do (essentially) the same things on our devices.

I feel the reason why (most people) can't handle a factory reset gracefully
is simply that they don't plan ahead at all times for that factory reset.

I do.
Hence, a factory reset is no big deal for me.
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Old September 24th 16, 11:17 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,alt.internet.wireless
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On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 16:31:00 +0000 (UTC), Horace Algiers wrote:

if I suddenly called independent
cleaners to your house, and they piled all the tools and data that you have
strewn about on your desktop into a big box, ...


If you did that, I'd have you (and them) arrested for felonious entry :-) .

Cheers, -- tlvp
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Old September 26th 16, 06:53 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,alt.internet.wireless
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Horace Algiers schrieb am 2016-09-24 um 18:31:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 06:57:50 +0200, Arno Welzel wrote:

You have a kind of obsessive-compulsive disorder?

Nobody I know does reinstall his or her phones or computers on a regular
basis.


Actually, you misunderstood, but I do agree with you that nobody factory
resets their phone on a *frequent* basis.

What you misunderstood was *why* I factory reset.


That's irrelevant. Nobody I know does this and I don't know of any
publication recommending doing this.


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