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Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone?



 
 
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  #21  
Old September 21st 16, 08:03 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Rod Speed
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Default Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone?

Horace Algiers wrote
Rod Speed wrote


No one except you is actually that stupid.


As usual, you both fail to comprehend the subject matter,


You are lying thru your ****ing teeth, as always.

*and* you fail to add any value;


You are lying thru your ****ing teeth, as always.

I told you more than once that there is no collection
BY CARRIERS of that data on current iphones, you silly
little pathological liar/pathetic excuse for a lying troll.

yet, you still post.


I answered your trolling question, ****wit.

Amazing.


You are lying thru your ****ing teeth, as always.

reams of your repetitive troll **** flushed where it belongs

  #22  
Old September 21st 16, 08:04 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Horace Algiers
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Default Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone?

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 13:35:37 -0400, nospam wrote:

what part of "it had quit supporting the application in iOS 5" is not
clear?

ios is up to version *10* now, so apple nixed it *five* years ago.


This thread is about recognizing and disabling *carrier diagnostics*
reporting, and as such, it applies to both Apple & Google based phones.

While CIQ first appeared in iOS 3.1.3, you have already said that *all*
carriers perform the diagnostics, and presumably you meant on all platforms
today, including both iOS & Android.

I have shown that T-Mobile uses specific software which, luckily, can be
easily turned off, if you know how to turn it off.

CIQ (which is now owned by AT&T) is only *one* of the software packages
that Apple and the carriers (AT&T, T-Mobile, and SPrint - but not Verizon)
used.

It seems, based on what Savageduck wrote, all it takes to disable *Apple*
diagnostics is to jump into Settings/About/Diagnostics & Usage, and change
the setting to ´Don˙t send.ˇ

But what about the *carrier* diagnostics? (e.g., T-Mobile, Sprint, AT&T,
etc.)
  #23  
Old September 21st 16, 08:09 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Horace Algiers
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 13:51:54 -0400, nospam wrote:

once again, you're spewing about things you know *nothing* about.

carrier iq is *not* the same as carrier diagnostic software which
tracks stuff like call drops or dead spots and carrier iq isn't on
iphones anyway so there's nothing to remove.


CIQ was on all iPhones for many years, but CIQ is only one of many ways
that carriers collect data where you can *opt out* of that data collection.

You, yourself, said that *all* carriers collect diagnostic information.

This thread simply asks if people disable their carrier diagnostic
software.

The goal is to identify where the *carriers* are obtaining data, and, if
possible, to learn how to *opt out* of that data collection.

Certainly it was easy to opt out of the T-mobile "system manager" app.

Others can report how they can opt out of their carrier diagnostics
collection on their phones.
  #24  
Old September 21st 16, 08:10 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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Horace Algiers wrote
nospam wrote


*all* cellular carriers collect diagnostic data regardless of the type
of phone (smartphone or candybar/flip), such as when and where
calls drop, so that they can see where they need to fix things.


I'm sure there is diagnostic information that you *can't* disable,


Of course there is with what is collected back in the bases, ****wit.

but there is certainly diagnostic information being sent to the carrier


Not with current iphones there is, troll.

that you *can* disable.


So the question is simply who disables carrier software,


There is no carrier software to disable on current iphones, troll.

and, if they do disable the carrier software, then how do they do it


Nothing to disable on current iphones, troll.

(so that all others may benefit from the information).


Nothing to benefit from with current iphones, troll.

1. I showed how to disable the T-mobile "System Manager Application"
data collection on Android, which anyone on T-Mobile can replicate.
2. Savageduck, on iOS, couldn't find where Verizon was collecting data,
but he kindly showed how he disables the *Apple* collection of data.


Its disabled by default, you pathetic excuse for a troll.

3. tlvp, on Android, said he couldn't find how to turn off the Verizon
collection of data on Android either - so it might be that you can't
turn off Verizon collection of data on either platform.


Nothing is collected on current iphones, troll.

4. You (nospam) mentioned the obvious (which didn't add any value)


You are lying thru your ****ing teeth, as always.

5. Rod Speed simply ranted as usual (showing even *less* value)


You are lying thru your ****ing teeth, as always.

6. Davoud is another kook who posted utter nonsense (as usual for him)


You are lying thru your ****ing teeth, as always.

In summary, based only on what has been reported here with respect to
*carrier* collection of data, the group tribal knowledge is the following:
a. On Android, you *can* turn off *T-Mobile* "System Manager Application"
data collection.
b. On iOS and Android, you *can't* turn off *Verizon* diagnostic data
collection


Nothing to turn off on iOS, troll, it isnt collected by any carrier in iOS.

No word yet on T-Mobile on iOS or AT&T on either platform.


Because Apple has said that it isnt collected, troll.

  #25  
Old September 21st 16, 08:11 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Horace Algiers
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 03:59:46 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

But nothing gets sent to the carrier with an iphone.


Do others concur that *nothing* gets sent to the carrier in iOS?
  #26  
Old September 21st 16, 08:12 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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"Horace Algiers" wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 07:53:12 -0700, Savageduck wrote:

Wih my iPhones on Verizon it is simple enought to go to
"Settings-"Privacy"(scroll to the bottom)-"Diagnostics & Usage" there
you find that it is Apple, not Verizon requesting the data. You have
the options to "Send Automatically" or "Don't Send". You are free to
choose whichever you want.


Thank you for that information about disabling the diagnostics sending by
Apple on a Verizon iPhone.

It seems there are *multiple* places where stock Android/iOS phones send
"diagnostic" information to the mother ship, which I propose that we
should
all know about.

In this case, there are two categories of mother ships:
- The platform (e.g., Apple & Google)
- The carriers (e.g., Verizon, T-Mobile, AT&T, Sprint, etc.)

At the bottom of that settings window you will find the current status
and a tap selection to view the currently accumulated "Diagnostics &
Usage Data".


That's nice that you can actually *see* the data that will be sent back to
the mother ship (in your case, back to Apple).

That's akin to my turning off Google diagnostics, which is pretty easy to
turn off - but you have to *know* where the settings are, since they're
scattered all about.


Nope, its disabled by default, troll.

That's why I opened *separate* threads on turning off the various
diagnostics mechanisms.

I think I've disabled the T-mobile diagnostic software, for example.
Do you think that you've disabled the Verizon diagnostic collection?


There is no CARRIER diagnostic collection to disable on current iphones,
troll.

  #27  
Old September 21st 16, 08:15 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
nospam[_2_]
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Default Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone?

In article , Horace Algiers
wrote:


what part of "it had quit supporting the application in iOS 5" is not
clear?

ios is up to version *10* now, so apple nixed it *five* years ago.


This thread is about recognizing and disabling *carrier diagnostics*
reporting, and as such, it applies to both Apple & Google based phones.


no it is't.

it's about yet another troll.

While CIQ first appeared in iOS 3.1.3, you have already said that *all*
carriers perform the diagnostics, and presumably you meant on all platforms
today, including both iOS & Android.


i'm talking about *today*, not what happened *seven* years ago.

I have shown that T-Mobile uses specific software which, luckily, can be
easily turned off, if you know how to turn it off.


not all of it, you can't.

CIQ (which is now owned by AT&T) is only *one* of the software packages
that Apple and the carriers (AT&T, T-Mobile, and SPrint - but not Verizon)
used.


used, as in past tense. ciq hasn't been on iphones in five years.

It seems, based on what Savageduck wrote, all it takes to disable *Apple*
diagnostics is to jump into Settings/About/Diagnostics & Usage, and change
the setting to ´Don˙t send.ˇ


that's ios diagnostics, not carrier diagnostics.

But what about the *carrier* diagnostics? (e.g., T-Mobile, Sprint, AT&T,
etc.)


that can't be disabled, nor should it, because it's vital for the
carriers to detect problems and fix them.
  #28  
Old September 21st 16, 08:15 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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Default Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone?

In article , Horace Algiers
wrote:


once again, you're spewing about things you know *nothing* about.

carrier iq is *not* the same as carrier diagnostic software which
tracks stuff like call drops or dead spots and carrier iq isn't on
iphones anyway so there's nothing to remove.


CIQ was on all iPhones for many years, but CIQ is only one of many ways
that carriers collect data where you can *opt out* of that data collection.


not very many years, and ciq has been gone for a very, very long time.

You, yourself, said that *all* carriers collect diagnostic information.


they do, and it's beneficial for everyone that they do.

This thread simply asks if people disable their carrier diagnostic
software.


they don't, because they're not paranoid idiots and they want the
carriers to improve coverage and fix problems
  #29  
Old September 21st 16, 08:15 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
nospam[_2_]
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Default Do you disable carrier diagnostic software on your cell phone?

In article , Horace Algiers
wrote:


Do others concur that *nothing* gets sent to the carrier in iOS?


you're *so* clueless.
  #30  
Old September 21st 16, 08:22 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Rod Speed
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Horace Algiers wrote
nospam wrote


who cares. it's just call drops and similar info, not specific
data about what someone is doing. completely harmless.


He's right.

Plenty of smart people care.


Just the paranoid fools...

While you're so used to "just giving up",


You are lying thru your ****ing teeth, as always.

it doesn't bother you in the least that you can't disable carrier
diagnostics,


Nothing to disable on current iphones, ****wit troll.

IT ISNT THERE TO DISABLE, ****wit troll.

and that's fine. You're not someone who can help in this discussion.


You are lying thru your ****ing teeth, as always.

However, plenty of people do care,


Just paranoid ****wits like you, troll.

and they've even written apps to *remove*
the carrier diagnostic software.


Not possible REMOVE what isnt there in the first place, ****wit troll.

FOr example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=110
Where the author says the app "can be used to verify what logging is
being done on your phone and where data is going to. It will assist
you in manually removing parts that you do not want running".


Doesn’t work on iphones, ****wit troll.

Besides, you may not care about security,


Nothing whatever to do with security, ****wit troll.

And if you had a ****ing clue about security, you'd be using an iphone
anyway, because your personal data is MUCH more secure with those.

but you must know that the company that made Carrier
IQ (which was on over 140 million phones according to
that company at the time, including iPhones)


Not for 5 YEARS now, ****wit troll.

admitted a bug where they collected cleartext SMS
messages which were supposed to be encrypted.


Not on iOS, ****wit troll.

Given that is a well-reported bug, wouldn't you care if your
encrypted messages were being sent, in cleartext, to the carrier?


They arent with iOS, ****wit troll.

I realize you are so used to "just giving up"
whenever a user-customization is involved,


You are lying thru your ****ing teeth, as always.

but other people don't give up as easily as you do. They care.


Only the paranoid ****wits too stupid to use iOS.

 




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