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Old February 2nd 10, 01:03 PM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.verizon,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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Default iPad Design Criteria Explain Why the iPad is the Way it is.

Larry wrote:
KDT wrote in news:4f858d00-7fa5-4f50-8b6f-
:

No connectivity to external devices? The iPhone SDK already allows
third party devices to interface with the dock connector .


A fanboi spewed this nonsense while standing right in front of a
wifi/bluetooth enabled, really nice HP photo injet printer at BestBuy.

"Show me a picture, any picture.", I asked. He whipped out a picture in no
time onto the little screen. "Print it here!", I said, pointing to the HP
loaded with ink and paper.

Of course, it wouldn't over wifi or bluetooth as it won't connect to
devices like the nice HP printer.


The Linux tablet is small form factor computer. The iPhone is a smart
phone. Big difference. I don't know of any smart phones that can print
directly to a Bluetooth or WiFi printer. Droid doesn't. Of course back
in the olden days I was printing directly from a Palm Pilot over IR to
an HP laser printer.

It's often very useful to be able to print or transfer directly to a
printer from a handheld device, or at least to an SD card which can hen
be inserted in the printer. Hopefully this capability will be added to
the iPhone/Touch/iPad. There's no reason I can think of why they would
want to restrict this, they probably just haven't finished the
programming yet. Remember it took them a long time for the Bluetooth
profile for Advanced Audio Distribution. No point holding up the release
of the product for something that can easily be added later, plus it
makes people happy to get new functionality in future OS upgrades.
  #22  
Old February 2nd 10, 04:24 PM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.verizon,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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Default iPad Design Criteria Explain Why the iPad is the Way it is.

On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 05:03:09 -0800, SMS wrote
(in article ):

Larry wrote:
KDT wrote in news:4f858d00-7fa5-4f50-8b6f-
:

No connectivity to external devices? The iPhone SDK already allows
third party devices to interface with the dock connector .


A fanboi spewed this nonsense while standing right in front of a
wifi/bluetooth enabled, really nice HP photo injet printer at BestBuy.

"Show me a picture, any picture.", I asked. He whipped out a picture in no
time onto the little screen. "Print it here!", I said, pointing to the HP
loaded with ink and paper.

Of course, it wouldn't over wifi or bluetooth as it won't connect to
devices like the nice HP printer.


The Linux tablet is small form factor computer. The iPhone is a smart
phone. Big difference. I don't know of any smart phones that can print
directly to a Bluetooth or WiFi printer. Droid doesn't. Of course back
in the olden days I was printing directly from a Palm Pilot over IR to
an HP laser printer.

It's often very useful to be able to print or transfer directly to a
printer from a handheld device, or at least to an SD card which can hen
be inserted in the printer. Hopefully this capability will be added to
the iPhone/Touch/iPad. There's no reason I can think of why they would
want to restrict this, they probably just haven't finished the
programming yet. Remember it took them a long time for the Bluetooth
profile for Advanced Audio Distribution. No point holding up the release
of the product for something that can easily be added later, plus it
makes people happy to get new functionality in future OS upgrades.


There's no real technical reason why the IPhone/iPod Touch couldn't print via
Wi-Fi. It just seems that Apple never enabled printing in either of them! One
would hope that this oversight would be remedied in the iPad.

  #23  
Old February 2nd 10, 04:25 PM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.verizon,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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Default iPad Design Criteria Explain Why the iPad is the Way it is.

In article ,
Larry wrote:

KDT wrote in news:4f858d00-7fa5-4f50-8b6f-
:

No connectivity to external devices? The iPhone SDK already allows
third party devices to interface with the dock connector .


A fanboi spewed this nonsense while standing right in front of a
wifi/bluetooth enabled, really nice HP photo injet printer at BestBuy.

"Show me a picture, any picture.", I asked. He whipped out a picture in no
time onto the little screen. "Print it here!", I said, pointing to the HP
loaded with ink and paper.

Of course, it wouldn't over wifi or bluetooth as it won't connect to
devices like the nice HP printer.

"You're so smart!", he accurately observed. "You print something and show
me." I whipped out the nasty old N800 Linux tablet, paired with the
printer in a couple of seconds and printed a full-blown, Apple webpage,
COMPLETE with the Flash logo Apple puts on them....in living colour, of
course....(c;]

He couldn't even render Apple's own webpage. It redirected him to one of
those AppleWAP simple pages iPhones display.

I followed that demo with printing a picture, a PDF page, the home
screen....and to top it off a picture from my Motorola sellphone camera
stored on the phone's external memory card.....over Bluetooth from the
phone to the tablet to the printer....pretty cool, actually.

He didn't call me a name like Michelle does. He was speechless.


You appear to be making **** up. Among other things, Apple's web site
doesn't use Flash, and the full version of it loads on iPhones. In fact,
aside from the lack of Flash support (and client-side Java, but you
don't see much of that these days), there's virtually no web page that
renders on desktop WebKit browsers that doesn't work just fine on Mobile
Safari. Why would there be? It's the same engine.

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anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it
must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes
  #24  
Old February 2nd 10, 04:52 PM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.verizon,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Lloyd Parsons
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Default iPad Design Criteria Explain Why the iPad is the Way it is.

In article ,
Michelle Steiner wrote:

In article ,
Larry wrote:

No connectivity to external devices? The iPhone SDK already allows
third party devices to interface with the dock connector .


A fanboi spewed this nonsense while standing right in front of a
wifi/bluetooth enabled, really nice HP photo injet printer at BestBuy.

"Show me a picture, any picture.", I asked. He whipped out a picture in
no time onto the little screen. "Print it here!", I said, pointing to
the HP loaded with ink and paper.

Of course, it wouldn't over wifi or bluetooth as it won't connect to
devices like the nice HP printer.


Gee, I print from my iPhone to my HP printer over WiFi whenever I want to.

How? Is there a driver?
  #25  
Old February 2nd 10, 04:58 PM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.verizon,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Lloyd Parsons
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Default iPad Design Criteria Explain Why the iPad is the Way it is.

In article ,
Michelle Steiner wrote:

In article ,
SMS wrote:

I don't know of any smart phones that can print directly to a Bluetooth
or WiFi printer.


The iPhone can print directly to a WiFi HP printer. Of course, you do need
the (free) HP printing app to do it, but it is easily done.

http://tinyurl.com/y9bg4au


Thanks, I never thought it could print, never looked.

Appears there are a few apps for printing available, not just the HP one.

thanks.
  #26  
Old February 2nd 10, 04:58 PM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.verizon,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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Default iPad Design Criteria Explain Why the iPad is the Way it is.

Michelle Steiner wrote:
In article ,
Larry wrote:

No connectivity to external devices? The iPhone SDK already allows
third party devices to interface with the dock connector .

A fanboi spewed this nonsense while standing right in front of a
wifi/bluetooth enabled, really nice HP photo injet printer at BestBuy.

"Show me a picture, any picture.", I asked. He whipped out a picture in
no time onto the little screen. "Print it here!", I said, pointing to
the HP loaded with ink and paper.

Of course, it wouldn't over wifi or bluetooth as it won't connect to
devices like the nice HP printer.


Gee, I print from my iPhone to my HP printer over WiFi whenever I want to.

He didn't call me a name like Michelle does.


If you hadn't called us names, I wouldn't have called you names. You reap
what you sow.



The record will show otherwise, and not only vis a vis Larry.
  #27  
Old February 2nd 10, 05:36 PM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.verizon,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
SMS
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Default iPad Design Criteria Explain Why the iPad is the Way it is.

Michelle Steiner wrote:
In article ,
SMS wrote:

I don't know of any smart phones that can print directly to a Bluetooth
or WiFi printer.


The iPhone can print directly to a WiFi HP printer. Of course, you do need
the (free) HP printing app to do it, but it is easily done.

http://tinyurl.com/y9bg4au


I stand corrected.
  #28  
Old February 2nd 10, 06:59 PM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.verizon,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Larry
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Default iPad Design Criteria Explain Why the iPad is the Way it is.

SMS wrote in news:4b682252$0$1614
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Of course back
in the olden days I was printing directly from a Palm Pilot over IR to
an HP laser printer.


The reviewers of the Nokia N900 all find the IR port on it a curiosity in
2010.

The Maemo hackers are using it as a TV/Stereo remote....(c;]


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"iPad is to computing what Etch-A-Sketch is to art!"

Larry

  #29  
Old February 2nd 10, 07:01 PM posted to alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.verizon,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Larry
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Default iPad Design Criteria Explain Why the iPad is the Way it is.

Fa-groon wrote in news:0001HW.C78D91B50002EEAEF01846D8
@news.giganews.com:

There's no real technical reason why the IPhone/iPod Touch couldn't print

via
Wi-Fi. It just seems that Apple never enabled printing in either of them!

One
would hope that this oversight would be remedied in the iPad.



It's no "oversight" at all. Everything it does, it does for Box Office
functionality so they can sell you something. Don't look for any of them
to tether to any device Apple doesn't sell or that doesn't create
additional revenue. Why should they allow you simple BT or wifi
connections to a printer, when they can sell you something over ATTWS like
picture messaging.

....ain't gonna happen in our lifetime.


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"iPad is to computing what Etch-A-Sketch is to art!"

Larry

 




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