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Old May 6th 06, 04:37 PM posted to alt.cellular.verizon
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Default Verizon Data service--SMTP?

I have just purchased the PC 5740 Data card for my laptop.

Now I am wondering what the setting for the
SMTP should be in order to send e-mail. (I will be using Eudora, but I
know that it doesn't matter there which I use)

Thanks
Mahl
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Old May 6th 06, 04:46 PM posted to alt.cellular.verizon
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Mahlon Wagner wrote:
I have just purchased the PC 5740 Data card for my laptop.

Now I am wondering what the setting for the
SMTP should be in order to send e-mail. (I will be using Eudora, but
I know that it doesn't matter there which I use)

Thanks
Mahl


Are you planning on using verizon as your ISP or do you have a mail account
with someone else?

For instance, while I have a data card in my laptop, and cable on my desktop
at home (both with their own email servers/mailboxes), I also have an
earthlink account and use THAT as my email address/their email servers/etc.


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Old May 6th 06, 07:43 PM posted to alt.cellular.verizon
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Default Verizon Data service--SMTP?

Peter Pan wrote:
Mahlon Wagner wrote:
I have just purchased the PC 5740 Data card for my laptop.

Now I am wondering what the setting for the
SMTP should be in order to send e-mail. (I will be using Eudora, but
I know that it doesn't matter there which I use)

Thanks
Mahl


Are you planning on using verizon as your ISP or do you have a mail account
with someone else?

For instance, while I have a data card in my laptop, and cable on my desktop
at home (both with their own email servers/mailboxes), I also have an
earthlink account and use THAT as my email address/their email servers/etc.


My plan, while traveling, is to use my POP (incoming) e-mail receiver.

But to send e-mail I will need to configure my e-mail program with the
Verizon SMTP.

So, while at home I use my home ISP (RoadRunner) for the laptop (and
Thunderbird for e-mail), but when travelling I need to use Verizon as my
ISP (with Eudora for e-mail). Previously I had data-only service with
T-Mobile and they had an SMTP that I used.
myemail.t-mobile.com

I am hoping that Verizon has something similar.
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Old May 6th 06, 08:08 PM posted to alt.cellular.verizon
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Mahlon Wagner wrote:
Peter Pan wrote:
Mahlon Wagner wrote:
I have just purchased the PC 5740 Data card for my
laptop.

Now I am wondering what the setting for the
SMTP should be in order to send e-mail. (I will be
using Eudora, but I know that it doesn't matter there
which I use)

Thanks
Mahl


Are you planning on using verizon as your ISP or do you
have a mail account with someone else?

For instance, while I have a data card in my laptop, and
cable on my desktop at home (both with their own email
servers/mailboxes), I also have an earthlink account and
use THAT as my email address/their email servers/etc.


My plan, while traveling, is to use my POP (incoming)
e-mail receiver.

But to send e-mail I will need to configure my e-mail
program with the Verizon SMTP.

So, while at home I use my home ISP (RoadRunner) for the
laptop (and Thunderbird for e-mail), but when travelling
I need to use Verizon as my ISP (with Eudora for e-mail).
Previously I had data-only service with T-Mobile and they
had an SMTP that I used. myemail.t-mobile.com

I am hoping that Verizon has something similar.


I assume you have to use a different outbound mail server
when away from home because your ISP doesn't allow
"relay" or have authentication? I can use my POP3 sbcglobal
email from anywhere. It just requires a login when connecting.

IMAP can be better for using different email clients from
different devices. Look at fastmail. I believe they still have
free accounts? They do have a basic membership for a
one-time fee. I funnel a few email accounts (POP3) into
that. I have configured for identities so that replies look
like they come from the pop3 email account that the email
I'm replying to came in on. This way you have the same
view from each client and you don't have to deal with syncing
emails received by one client with the other client, duplicates,
the deletion problem, etc.

-Quick


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Old May 6th 06, 08:54 PM posted to alt.cellular.verizon
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Quick wrote:
Mahlon Wagner wrote:
Peter Pan wrote:
Mahlon Wagner wrote:
I have just purchased the PC 5740 Data card for my
laptop.

Now I am wondering what the setting for the
SMTP should be in order to send e-mail. (I will be
using Eudora, but I know that it doesn't matter there
which I use)

Thanks
Mahl
Are you planning on using verizon as your ISP or do you
have a mail account with someone else?

For instance, while I have a data card in my laptop, and
cable on my desktop at home (both with their own email
servers/mailboxes), I also have an earthlink account and
use THAT as my email address/their email servers/etc.


My plan, while traveling, is to use my POP (incoming)
e-mail receiver.

But to send e-mail I will need to configure my e-mail
program with the Verizon SMTP.

So, while at home I use my home ISP (RoadRunner) for the
laptop (and Thunderbird for e-mail), but when travelling
I need to use Verizon as my ISP (with Eudora for e-mail).
Previously I had data-only service with T-Mobile and they
had an SMTP that I used. myemail.t-mobile.com

I am hoping that Verizon has something similar.


I assume you have to use a different outbound mail server
when away from home because your ISP doesn't allow
"relay" or have authentication? I can use my POP3 sbcglobal
email from anywhere. It just requires a login when connecting.

IMAP can be better for using different email clients from
different devices. Look at fastmail. I believe they still have
free accounts? They do have a basic membership for a
one-time fee. I funnel a few email accounts (POP3) into
that. I have configured for identities so that replies look
like they come from the pop3 email account that the email
I'm replying to came in on. This way you have the same
view from each client and you don't have to deal with syncing
emails received by one client with the other client, duplicates,
the deletion problem, etc.

-Quick


Thank you both for your useful replies. I will indeed check into
fastmail.
I also just demonstrated the age old--"read the manual" adage. And on
Verizon wireless FAQ, I just found the following which also seems to
answer my initial question:

To utilize SMTP you will need to do the following:

1. Change your Outgoing Mail Server to smtp.vzwmail.net. The steps
to change the Outgoing Mail Settings will vary by email client. Please
refer to your email client provider for instructions on how to change
the setting.
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Old May 6th 06, 09:21 PM posted to alt.cellular.verizon
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Mahlon Wagner wrote:

Peter Pan wrote:
Mahlon Wagner wrote:
I have just purchased the PC 5740 Data card for my laptop.

Now I am wondering what the setting for the
SMTP should be in order to send e-mail. (I will be using Eudora, but
I know that it doesn't matter there which I use)

Thanks
Mahl


Are you planning on using verizon as your ISP or do you have a mail
account with someone else?

For instance, while I have a data card in my laptop, and cable on my
desktop at home (both with their own email servers/mailboxes), I also
have an earthlink account and use THAT as my email address/their email
servers/etc.


My plan, while traveling, is to use my POP (incoming) e-mail receiver.

But to send e-mail I will need to configure my e-mail program with the
Verizon SMTP.

So, while at home I use my home ISP (RoadRunner) for the laptop (and
Thunderbird for e-mail), but when travelling I need to use Verizon as my
ISP (with Eudora for e-mail). Previously I had data-only service with
T-Mobile and they had an SMTP that I used.
myemail.t-mobile.com

I am hoping that Verizon has something similar.


If you find you can't use Verizon for SMTP when using a different ISP, you
can always use Fastmail. For a one-time fee of $14.95, you can have an SMTP
service that works anywhere. I started using Fastmail when I ran into this
problem with Compuserve, where I couldn't access SMTP with my Palm Tungsten
W wireless email device. After using Fastmail for only SMTP, I liked it so
much, I ended up signing up for its deluxe package, the Enahnced
membership, using it for all my email needs. You can take a look at it
he

www.fastmail.fm
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Old May 6th 06, 09:51 PM posted to alt.cellular.verizon
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Default Verizon Data service--SMTP?

Mahlon Wagner wrote:
Peter Pan wrote:
Mahlon Wagner wrote:
I have just purchased the PC 5740 Data card for my laptop.

Now I am wondering what the setting for the
SMTP should be in order to send e-mail. (I will be using Eudora,
but I know that it doesn't matter there which I use)

Thanks
Mahl


Are you planning on using verizon as your ISP or do you have a mail
account with someone else?

For instance, while I have a data card in my laptop, and cable on my
desktop at home (both with their own email servers/mailboxes), I
also have an earthlink account and use THAT as my email
address/their email servers/etc.

My plan, while traveling, is to use my POP (incoming) e-mail receiver.

But to send e-mail I will need to configure my e-mail program with
the Verizon SMTP.

So, while at home I use my home ISP (RoadRunner) for the laptop (and
Thunderbird for e-mail), but when travelling I need to use Verizon as
my ISP (with Eudora for e-mail). Previously I had data-only
service with T-Mobile and they had an SMTP that I used.
myemail.t-mobile.com

I am hoping that Verizon has something similar.


Again, while verizon has one, and so do many others, I actually had
RoadRunner (in south carolina) and just kept using my earthlink mail server
(Roadrunner (at least in SC) actually came with a free earthlink account at
that time). Seems like what is available in each area depends on what state
you have roadrunner in. To see what may be available to you, check the
Roadrunner help at
http://help.rr.com/AA/rrwho.aspx?Ret...2fDefault.aspx (you enter the
state/city/etc).. In many instances, you can actually use any mail
server... You are already on the internet... Think of it like when you use
someone's hotspot.. It is already connected to the internet, but you want to
use your OWN incoming and outgoing mail servers (outgoing is usually
something like an smtp server, like your pop server for incoming). You may
want to take a few minutes and see if you can do it one way no matter what
you use.. Beats reconfiguring for each service you get in the future.


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Old May 6th 06, 11:02 PM posted to alt.cellular.verizon
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Peter Pan wrote:
In many instances, you can actually use any mail server...
You are already on the internet...


Errr, no. Most servers will reject "relay". It's because of the
spammers routing/sending email through someone else's
server. They will only send outbound email that originates
from an "internal" IP address (one of their's) or they require
you to authenticate when establishing a session (that's usually
login id and password). If they do authentication, and you
have an account then you can use the outbound server from
any IP address.

-Quick


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Old May 6th 06, 11:16 PM posted to alt.cellular.verizon
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Peter Pan wrote:


state/city/etc).. In many instances, you can actually use any mail
server... You are already on the internet... Think of it like when you use



That was years ago before spammers found out that open SMTP servers were
a great way to cover their tracks.


someone's hotspot.. It is already connected to the internet, but you want to
use your OWN incoming and outgoing mail servers (outgoing is usually
something like an smtp server, like your pop server for incoming). You may
want to take a few minutes and see if you can do it one way no matter what
you use.. Beats reconfiguring for each service you get in the future.


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Old May 6th 06, 11:39 PM posted to alt.cellular.verizon
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George wrote:
Peter Pan wrote:


state/city/etc).. In many instances, you can actually use any mail
server... You are already on the internet... Think of it like when
you use



That was years ago before spammers found out that open SMTP servers
were a great way to cover their tracks.


someone's hotspot.. It is already connected to the internet, but you
want to use your OWN incoming and outgoing mail servers (outgoing
is usually something like an smtp server, like your pop server for
incoming). You may want to take a few minutes and see if you can do
it one way no matter what you use.. Beats reconfiguring for each
service you get in the future.


Note that it says in many instances, not *all*.. While it is true about the
spammers, there are many ISP's that have authenticated smtp servers.. In my
case, with earthlink I use their authenticated server
(smtpauth.earthlink.net logon with my name and password, and can send email
from any system I use WiFi./DSL/Dial-up/Sat/Cellphone etc)..My sister has
comcast cable, and they also have an authenticated smtp server, so she can
use my computers when she comes to visit.

Sounds like you buy into that spammer nonsense.. It really has nothing to do
with authenticated mail servers (only open ones).... Most email programs
even have a little check box for "my server requires authentication" (check
that box and it asks for your account name and password).. Simply amazing
that many people won't bother looking at it, they just *assume* they can't..


 




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