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Old June 29th 04, 09:33 AM
Steven Fisher
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In article ,
Seymour Butts wrote:

Steven Fisher wrote in alt.cellular.fido:

It will cost you $250 to get a Fido cell phone unlocked. (I just asked
them.)


There are cheaper ways than going through Fido.


Well, yes, of course. Heh. Sorry, I should have said "through Fido."

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Old June 29th 04, 01:23 PM
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:30:33 -0700, obs wrote:

Fido like all GSM service providers lock their phones. There are
exceptions like where Cingular didn't lock their Treo 600's (not sure
if they still sell them unlocked) and Rogers didn't lock their
Tungsten W (their Tungsten-W is still unlocked).



This is getting off the topic but not all the GSM
providers in the world lock their phones. None of
the providers in Finland do it because of laws
there. In other places, phones purchased with a
contract are unlocked (as they should be).


FWIW most phones sold in Europe are locked, however, there are two stark
differences compared to he

- they freely admit they are locked, and even say so in the ads
- they will unlock them without an issue after you've been with them for a
while, usually a year, which is also clearly stated in the ad

MUCH better then the "you're locked in forever" junk that providers in
North America try to pull... TTYL
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Old June 29th 04, 03:27 PM
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Steven Fisher wrote:
In article ,
Good Man wrote:

there's a reason why the price of phones from cellphone companies are
hundreds of dollars cheaper than list price. it's because they are
subsidised by the wireless company, and therefore they lock the
phone for at least two years.


It will cost you $250 to get a Fido cell phone unlocked. (I just asked
them.)


don't know what the threshold is, but if you have been with Fido long enough
and have racked up enough usage, they'll do it for free if you give them the
right excuse (e.g. you'll be in NYC for a month and want to use a local
pay-as-you-go etc...).

I've thought about trying to get my 6 year old 5190 unlocked so I can use
Rogers pay-as-you-go out in the sticks...

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Old June 29th 04, 11:42 PM
Jim Poon
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Your post wasn't off topic...

I was sure that there was probably some service providers that didn't
lock their phones. However, the norm in North America is that the
phones are sold locked (and I'm only familiar with the North American
market).

In any event, I hope that the lawsuit in the U.S. is successful and
the GSM service providers are forced to unlock their phones or sell
them as unlocked.



(obs) wrote in message . com...
Fido like all GSM service providers lock their phones. There are
exceptions like where Cingular didn't lock their Treo 600's (not sure
if they still sell them unlocked) and Rogers didn't lock their
Tungsten W (their Tungsten-W is still unlocked).



This is getting off the topic but not all the GSM
providers in the world lock their phones. None of
the providers in Finland do it because of laws
there. In other places, phones purchased with a
contract are unlocked (as they should be).

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Old June 29th 04, 11:52 PM
Jim Poon
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Rogers advertised that their Treo 600 was sold "locked" (it was on
their webpage). I can't find the link now but it was there when the
Treo 600 was first sold by Rogers.

However, as you mentioned, the North American GSM service providers
don't openly say that their phones are locked when they sell them.
They will probably only tell you if you ask specifically about this.



repatch wrote in message ...
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:30:33 -0700, obs wrote:

Fido like all GSM service providers lock their phones. There are
exceptions like where Cingular didn't lock their Treo 600's (not sure
if they still sell them unlocked) and Rogers didn't lock their
Tungsten W (their Tungsten-W is still unlocked).



This is getting off the topic but not all the GSM
providers in the world lock their phones. None of
the providers in Finland do it because of laws
there. In other places, phones purchased with a
contract are unlocked (as they should be).


FWIW most phones sold in Europe are locked, however, there are two stark
differences compared to he

- they freely admit they are locked, and even say so in the ads
- they will unlock them without an issue after you've been with them for a
while, usually a year, which is also clearly stated in the ad

MUCH better then the "you're locked in forever" junk that providers in
North America try to pull... TTYL

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Old June 29th 04, 11:55 PM
Jim Poon
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I'm not doubting you on this but why would Fido or any service
provider unlock your phone for free when you use that excuse? Someone
else told me the same thing but I've never been able to get Fido or
Rogers to unlock my phone for free. It is in their interest for you to
use their ROAMING rates instead of using the local country's GSM
service provider's pay as you go (prepaid).


"Dominic Richens" wrote in message ...
Steven Fisher wrote:
In article ,
Good Man wrote:

there's a reason why the price of phones from cellphone companies are
hundreds of dollars cheaper than list price. it's because they are
subsidised by the wireless company, and therefore they lock the
phone for at least two years.


It will cost you $250 to get a Fido cell phone unlocked. (I just asked
them.)


don't know what the threshold is, but if you have been with Fido long enough
and have racked up enough usage, they'll do it for free if you give them the
right excuse (e.g. you'll be in NYC for a month and want to use a local
pay-as-you-go etc...).

I've thought about trying to get my 6 year old 5190 unlocked so I can use
Rogers pay-as-you-go out in the sticks...

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Old June 30th 04, 12:06 AM
Jim Poon
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I don't believe that excuse from the cellular service providers. This
would mean that if I bought a phone without a contract at the higher
rate, the phone should be unlocked.

Consider this: If I were to buy a Treo 600 without a contract from
Rogers, it would cost me around $899+tax. However if I buy a Treo 600
with a 2 year contract with Rogers, I could possibly get it for around
$600+tax. However, both phones (Treo 600's) are locked regardless of
whether I want a contract or not. Comparing the price that
Handspring/PalmOne sells their unbranded/unlocked Treo 600 phone and
using the conversion rate, it comes to a few dollars more than how
much Rogers is selling their locked Treo 600 phone without a contract
for. Therefore Rogers (and the other providers) are locking the phone
even when they aren't really subsidizing any cost (without contract
price).





Good Man wrote in message .. .
Tranic wrote in
:

I'm looking into purchasing an ericsson phone through FIDO. I'm
concerned about whether or not they modify their phones with SIM or
service provider locks. I'd like to not have to buy a data cable and
pay to have the locks removed if i ever decide to move over to another
provider.



there's a reason why the price of phones from cellphone companies are
hundreds of dollars cheaper than list price. it's because they are
subsidised by the wireless company, and therefore they lock the phone for
at least two years.

  #18  
Old June 30th 04, 06:33 AM
obs
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I've thought about trying to get my 6 year old
5190 unlocked so I can use Rogers pay-as-you-go
out in the sticks...



Don't think about it ... just do it.
http://www.unlockme.co.uk/dct3free.html
Use DCT4 Generator by Hollowman 5.4

1: make sure you select DCT3 type phones
2: use Microcell as the provider (not Fido Special)
3: there will be 2 unlock codes generated. you
need to use them both
  #19  
Old June 30th 04, 10:45 AM
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I mentioned this near the top of the thread. Go to froogle or yahoo
shopping and you'll inevitably get a deal that's at least as good if
not usually better than the service providers offer here in Canada,
but for an unlocked phone or PDA. Example: the new Nokia 3100 that's
*coming soon* to Fido has been available with US online merchants for
some time and is pretty cheap now.

Even the subsidies on phones here are no longer competitive with
what's being offered in the US, where you can get phones like the v400
for nothing if you sign a contract.


(Jim Poon) wrote in message . com...
I don't believe that excuse from the cellular service providers. This
would mean that if I bought a phone without a contract at the higher
rate, the phone should be unlocked.

Consider this: If I were to buy a Treo 600 without a contract from
Rogers, it would cost me around $899+tax. However if I buy a Treo 600
with a 2 year contract with Rogers, I could possibly get it for around
$600+tax. However, both phones (Treo 600's) are locked regardless of
whether I want a contract or not. Comparing the price that
Handspring/PalmOne sells their unbranded/unlocked Treo 600 phone and
using the conversion rate, it comes to a few dollars more than how
much Rogers is selling their locked Treo 600 phone without a contract
for. Therefore Rogers (and the other providers) are locking the phone
even when they aren't really subsidizing any cost (without contract
price).





Good Man wrote in message .. .
Tranic wrote in
:

I'm looking into purchasing an ericsson phone through FIDO. I'm
concerned about whether or not they modify their phones with SIM or
service provider locks. I'd like to not have to buy a data cable and
pay to have the locks removed if i ever decide to move over to another
provider.



there's a reason why the price of phones from cellphone companies are
hundreds of dollars cheaper than list price. it's because they are
subsidised by the wireless company, and therefore they lock the phone for
at least two years.

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Old June 30th 04, 03:24 PM
Cellular Unlocker
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The trouble with buying phones online, however, is that they either have no
warranty, or it is very difficult to honour the warranty. I'd rather try to
get Fido to give a me phone for cheaper (which I'll unlock myself) so I at
least have my 1 year in-store warranty. Just my 2 cents.

CU

"sbdot" wrote in message
om...
I mentioned this near the top of the thread. Go to froogle or yahoo
shopping and you'll inevitably get a deal that's at least as good if
not usually better than the service providers offer here in Canada,
but for an unlocked phone or PDA. Example: the new Nokia 3100 that's
*coming soon* to Fido has been available with US online merchants for
some time and is pretty cheap now.

Even the subsidies on phones here are no longer competitive with
what's being offered in the US, where you can get phones like the v400
for nothing if you sign a contract.


(Jim Poon) wrote in message

. com...
I don't believe that excuse from the cellular service providers. This
would mean that if I bought a phone without a contract at the higher
rate, the phone should be unlocked.

Consider this: If I were to buy a Treo 600 without a contract from
Rogers, it would cost me around $899+tax. However if I buy a Treo 600
with a 2 year contract with Rogers, I could possibly get it for around
$600+tax. However, both phones (Treo 600's) are locked regardless of
whether I want a contract or not. Comparing the price that
Handspring/PalmOne sells their unbranded/unlocked Treo 600 phone and
using the conversion rate, it comes to a few dollars more than how
much Rogers is selling their locked Treo 600 phone without a contract
for. Therefore Rogers (and the other providers) are locking the phone
even when they aren't really subsidizing any cost (without contract
price).





Good Man wrote in message

.. .
Tranic wrote in
:

I'm looking into purchasing an ericsson phone through FIDO. I'm
concerned about whether or not they modify their phones with SIM or
service provider locks. I'd like to not have to buy a data cable

and
pay to have the locks removed if i ever decide to move over to

another
provider.


there's a reason why the price of phones from cellphone companies are
hundreds of dollars cheaper than list price. it's because they are
subsidised by the wireless company, and therefore they lock the phone

for
at least two years.



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