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Old October 7th 16, 05:37 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Algeria Horan
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Default Compare Google Pixel & Pixel XL to the iPhone 7 by specifications only

In a recent thread on m.p.m.i, JF Mezei brought up the Google Pixel XL
camera comparison to the iPhone camera. I hadn't heard of the Pixel XL
before, so I decided to run a quick specification-by-specification
comparison of the closest iWhatever to the Google Nexus HTC Pixel XL phone.

Here is the Google Pixel XL spec:
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_xl-8345.php

Here is the corresponding iPhone 7 spec:
http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_7-8064.php

Comparing the two phones by spec only in the order provided...

1. Network technology is the same.
2. SIM cards are the same
3. Pixel XL screen size (5.5") is larger than the iPhone 7 (4.7")
4. Pixel XL has far greater resolution and pixel density than the iPhone 7
5. Both have quad-core CPUs where the Pixel XL is faster with twice the RAM
6. Cameras are discussed on another thread (let's call it even for now)
7. Neither has an expansion card slot (which is a bummer for both)
8. The Pixel XL has a real 3.5mm jack while the iPhone 7 lost that feature
9. WiFi on the Pixel XL is slightly better (with Wi-Fi Direct & DLNA)
10. Bluetooth specs are the same essentially
11. GPS specs are the same essentially
12. NFC seems slightly better on the Pixel XL than on the iPhone 7
13. USB connector is 3.0 on the Pixel XL (versus 2.0 on the iPhone 7)
14. Sensors are the same (FP, Accel, Gyro, Prox, Compass, Baro)
15. Talk time is more than double for the Pixel XL over the iPhone 7
16. Music play time on the Pixel XL is three times that of the iPhone 7

Overall, on the listed performance features, it seems the Pixel XL is
arguably far better than the iPhone 7 by a wide margin in some specs, and
by a slim margin in others, and they're essentially equal in a bunch of
ways.

Looking up the price for a 32GB version of each:
Pixel XL = $769
iPhone 7 = $650

Next I'll compare the Pixel to the iPhone 7 by specs.
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Old October 7th 16, 05:47 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Algeria Horan
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Default Compare Google Pixel & Pixel XL to the iPhone 7 by specifications only

Next I'll compare the Pixel to the iPhone 7 by specs.

Here is the Google Pixel spec:
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel-8346.php

Here is the corresponding iPhone 7 spec:
http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_7-8064.php

Comparing the two phones by spec only in the order provided...

1. Network technology is the same.
2. SIM cards are the same
3. Pixel screen size (5.0") is slightly larger than the iPhone 7 (4.7")
4. Pixel has much greater resolution & pixel density than the iPhone 7
5. Both have quad-core CPUs where the Pixel is faster with twice the RAM
6. Cameras are discussed on another thread (let's call it even for now)
7. Neither has an expansion card slot (which is a bummer for both)
8. The Pixel has a real 3.5mm jack while the iPhone 7 lost that feature
9. WiFi on the Pixel is slightly better (with Wi-Fi Direct & DLNA)
10. Bluetooth specs are the same essentially
11. GPS specs are the same essentially
12. NFC seems slightly better on the Pixel than on the iPhone 7
13. USB connector is 3.0 on the Pixel (versus 2.0 on the iPhone 7)
14. Sensors are the same (FP, Accel, Gyro, Prox, Compass, Baro)
15. Talk time is almost double for the Pixel over the iPhone 7
16. Music play time on the Pixel XL is almost 3 times that of the iPhone 7

Overall, on the listed performance features, it seems the Pixel is
arguably better than the iPhone 7 by a wide margin in some specs, and
by a slim margin in others, and they're essentially equal in a bunch of
ways.

Looking up the price for a 32GB version of each:
Pixel = $650
iPhone 7 = $650
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Old October 7th 16, 06:26 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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Default Compare Google Pixel & Pixel XL to the iPhone 7 by specifications only



"Algeria Horan" wrote in message
...
Next I'll compare the Pixel to the iPhone 7 by specs.


Here is the Google Pixel spec:
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel-8346.php

Here is the corresponding iPhone 7 spec:
http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_7-8064.php

Comparing the two phones by spec only in the order provided...

1. Network technology is the same.
2. SIM cards are the same
3. Pixel screen size (5.0") is slightly larger than the iPhone 7 (4.7")
4. Pixel has much greater resolution & pixel density than the iPhone 7
5. Both have quad-core CPUs where the Pixel is faster with twice the RAM
6. Cameras are discussed on another thread (let's call it even for now)
7. Neither has an expansion card slot (which is a bummer for both)
8. The Pixel has a real 3.5mm jack while the iPhone 7 lost that feature
9. WiFi on the Pixel is slightly better (with Wi-Fi Direct & DLNA)
10. Bluetooth specs are the same essentially
11. GPS specs are the same essentially
12. NFC seems slightly better on the Pixel than on the iPhone 7


But apple doesn’t allow apps to access that which is better for
security but may not be as good if you don’t care about security.

13. USB connector is 3.0 on the Pixel (versus 2.0 on the iPhone 7)
14. Sensors are the same (FP, Accel, Gyro, Prox, Compass, Baro)
15. Talk time is almost double for the Pixel over the iPhone 7
16. Music play time on the Pixel XL is almost 3 times that of the iPhone 7

Overall, on the listed performance features, it seems the Pixel is
arguably better than the iPhone 7 by a wide margin in some specs, and
by a slim margin in others, and they're essentially equal in a bunch of
ways.

Looking up the price for a 32GB version of each:
Pixel = $650
iPhone 7 = $650


That's a bit low end IMO.

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Old October 7th 16, 07:18 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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Default Compare Google Pixel & Pixel XL to the iPhone 7 by specifications only

In article , Algeria Horan
wrote:

Comparing the two phones by spec only in the order provided...

1. Network technology is the same.


nope.

the iphone 7 (and 6s for that matter) has more lte bands, which means
better coverage and wider carrier support.

2. SIM cards are the same


so what?

nobody buys a phone based on the size of the sim card.

3. Pixel XL screen size (5.5") is larger than the iPhone 7 (4.7")


as usual, you're intentionally comparing different products to skew
your 'comparison'.

the pixel xl is comparable to the iphone 7+ *not* the smaller iphone 7,
which compares with the regular pixel.

4. Pixel XL has far greater resolution and pixel density than the iPhone 7


it's a little bit higher than the iphone 7+, but not anything human
eyes can see so it doesn't actually matter in the real world.

it's just more pixels to move around (which increases memory demands).

5. Both have quad-core CPUs where the Pixel XL is faster with twice the RAM


**** no. not even close.

the iphone 7/7+ processor, which by the way, is *not* a quad core but
rather a dual dual core, blows away the pixel. even last year's iphone
6s is faster.

http://bgr.com/2016/10/05/iphone-7-vs-pixel-benchmarks/
Geekbench 4 scores that just hit the web confirm as much ‹ Google¹s
Pixels score a 1580 on the single-core test and about 4100 on the
multi-core test, while Apple¹s latest iPhones score 3430 and about
5600.

geekbench rates the iphone 7 at *double* the performance on single core
and about 50% faster on multicore. double!! with half the cores!

http://www.redmondpie.com/google-pix...iphone-7-7-plu
s-benchmarks-comparison/
Early benchmarks from Geekbench 4 suggests that Apple¹s iPhone 7 and
iPhone 7 Plus easily beat the Pixel phones by Google on both single
and multi-core tests, with even older Apple hardware like the iPhone
SE and iPhone 6s outperforming the yet-to-be-released Google devices.

even *last* *year's* iphone 6s beats the pixel!!

as for memory, android has a higher memory overhead. it *needs* the
extra memory.

not only that, but the iphone 7+ has 3 gig (versus 4 gig in the pixel,
just ~30% more), mostly for the dual-lens camera which the pixel does
not have.

6. Cameras are discussed on another thread (let's call it even for now)


let's not, because the cameras are not even.

the pixel lacks optical image stabilization, has a slower lens and for
the iphone 7+, does not have a dual lens with optical zoom and portrait
mode.

they're both good cameras, but not 'even'.

7. Neither has an expansion card slot (which is a bummer for both)
8. The Pixel XL has a real 3.5mm jack while the iPhone 7 lost that feature


who cares. most people never use either one.

wireless is where it's at.

9. WiFi on the Pixel XL is slightly better (with Wi-Fi Direct & DLNA)


wrong.

iphones have had wifi direct for *years*, the very feature you keep
insisting is not needed because you prefer the much slower bluetooth.

10. Bluetooth specs are the same essentially
11. GPS specs are the same essentially


first valid thing you've said so far.

12. NFC seems slightly better on the Pixel XL than on the iPhone 7


also true. nfc on android is a bit more flexible.

13. USB connector is 3.0 on the Pixel XL (versus 2.0 on the iPhone 7)


that doesn't mean much of anything in the real world because flash
memory is the limiting factor.

14. Sensors are the same (FP, Accel, Gyro, Prox, Compass, Baro)
15. Talk time is more than double for the Pixel XL over the iPhone 7
16. Music play time on the Pixel XL is three times that of the iPhone 7


you're once again comparing a larger pixel xl with the smaller iphone 7.

i'm quite sure you're doing that intentionally to skew your supposed
'comparison'.

either compare the pixel with the iphone 7 or the pixel xl with the
iphone 7+.

Overall, on the listed performance features, it seems the Pixel XL is
arguably far better than the iPhone 7 by a wide margin in some specs, and
by a slim margin in others, and they're essentially equal in a bunch of
ways.


it's an invalid comparison.

they're both good phones, which are priced exactly the same.

so much for android being cheaper.

Looking up the price for a 32GB version of each:
Pixel XL = $769
iPhone 7 = $650


you're so disingenuous that you even artificially inflated the iphone
price by a buck.

here's the price comparison:

iphone 7+ 32 gig: $769
pixel xl 32 gig: $769
128 gig version, add $100

pixel 32 gig: $649
iphone 7 32 gig: $649
128 gig version, add $100

they're *exactly* the same.

also note that the iphone offers 256 gig for an additional $100 over
the 128 gig, while the pixel does not offer 256 gig at all, no matter
how much you want to pay.

Next I'll compare the Pixel to the iPhone 7 by specs.


that's what you should have done in the first place.
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Old October 7th 16, 08:08 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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Default Compare Google Pixel & Pixel XL to the iPhone 7 by specificationsonly

On 10/6/2016 8:37 PM, Algeria Horan wrote:
In a recent thread on m.p.m.i, JF Mezei brought up the Google Pixel XL
camera comparison to the iPhone camera. I hadn't heard of the Pixel XL
before, so I decided to run a quick specification-by-specification
comparison of the closest iWhatever to the Google Nexus HTC Pixel XL phone.

Here is the Google Pixel XL spec:
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_xl-8345.php

Here is the corresponding iPhone 7 spec:
http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_7-8064.php

Comparing the two phones by spec only in the order provided...

1. Network technology is the same.
2. SIM cards are the same
3. Pixel XL screen size (5.5") is larger than the iPhone 7 (4.7")
4. Pixel XL has far greater resolution and pixel density than the iPhone 7
5. Both have quad-core CPUs where the Pixel XL is faster with twice the RAM
6. Cameras are discussed on another thread (let's call it even for now)
7. Neither has an expansion card slot (which is a bummer for both)
8. The Pixel XL has a real 3.5mm jack while the iPhone 7 lost that feature
9. WiFi on the Pixel XL is slightly better (with Wi-Fi Direct & DLNA)
10. Bluetooth specs are the same essentially
11. GPS specs are the same essentially
12. NFC seems slightly better on the Pixel XL than on the iPhone 7
13. USB connector is 3.0 on the Pixel XL (versus 2.0 on the iPhone 7)
14. Sensors are the same (FP, Accel, Gyro, Prox, Compass, Baro)
15. Talk time is more than double for the Pixel XL over the iPhone 7
16. Music play time on the Pixel XL is three times that of the iPhone 7


17. Neither phone has a Micro SD card slot.

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Old October 7th 16, 09:05 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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Default Compare Google Pixel & Pixel XL to the iPhone 7 by specificationsonly

On 07/10/2016 07:08, AL wrote:
On 10/6/2016 8:37 PM, Algeria Horan wrote:
In a recent thread on m.p.m.i, JF Mezei brought up the Google Pixel XL
camera comparison to the iPhone camera. I hadn't heard of the Pixel XL
before, so I decided to run a quick specification-by-specification
comparison of the closest iWhatever to the Google Nexus HTC Pixel XL
phone.

Here is the Google Pixel XL spec:
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_xl-8345.php

Here is the corresponding iPhone 7 spec:
http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_7-8064.php

Comparing the two phones by spec only in the order provided...

1. Network technology is the same.
2. SIM cards are the same
3. Pixel XL screen size (5.5") is larger than the iPhone 7 (4.7")
4. Pixel XL has far greater resolution and pixel density than the
iPhone 7
5. Both have quad-core CPUs where the Pixel XL is faster with twice
the RAM
6. Cameras are discussed on another thread (let's call it even for now)
7. Neither has an expansion card slot (which is a bummer for both)
8. The Pixel XL has a real 3.5mm jack while the iPhone 7 lost that
feature
9. WiFi on the Pixel XL is slightly better (with Wi-Fi Direct & DLNA)
10. Bluetooth specs are the same essentially
11. GPS specs are the same essentially
12. NFC seems slightly better on the Pixel XL than on the iPhone 7
13. USB connector is 3.0 on the Pixel XL (versus 2.0 on the iPhone 7)
14. Sensors are the same (FP, Accel, Gyro, Prox, Compass, Baro)
15. Talk time is more than double for the Pixel XL over the iPhone 7
16. Music play time on the Pixel XL is three times that of the iPhone 7


17. Neither phone has a Micro SD card slot.

18. For 17. see 7.

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Old October 7th 16, 02:43 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
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Default Compare Google Pixel & Pixel XL to the iPhone 7 by specifications only

In article , AL
wrote:

17. Neither phone has a Micro SD card slot.


256 gig *and* the cloud is not enough?
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Old October 7th 16, 08:21 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Algeria Horan
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Default Compare Google Pixel & Pixel XL to the iPhone 7 by specifications only

musika wrote:

17. Neither phone has a Micro SD card slot.

18. For 17. see 7.


I had omitted that neither has a removable battery also.

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Old October 7th 16, 08:21 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Algeria Horan
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Default Compare Google Pixel & Pixel XL to the iPhone 7 by specifications only

AL wrote:

17. Neither phone has a Micro SD card slot.


I think the common drawbacks to *both* phones are that too!

a. Neither phone has an expansion slot.
b. Neither phone has a removable battery.

Those are negatives to me too.
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Old October 7th 16, 08:21 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Algeria Horan
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nospam wrote:

1. Network technology is the same.


nope.

the iphone 7 (and 6s for that matter) has more lte bands, which means
better coverage and wider carrier support.


What you say doesn't show up in the gsmarena specs, but, sometimes what you
say is actually true (although you never back up what you say, and, 90% of
the time, your wrong - so I'm forced to ask you for clarification).

The Pixel is chock full of LTE bands so, I must ask you *which* bands
specifically you feel are *important* for a USA customer of either phone
that the iPhone 7 has that the Pixel does not have?

2. SIM cards are the same


so what?

nobody buys a phone based on the size of the sim card.


Fair enough.

3. Pixel XL screen size (5.5") is larger than the iPhone 7 (4.7")


as usual, you're intentionally comparing different products to skew
your 'comparison'.

the pixel xl is comparable to the iphone 7+ *not* the smaller iphone 7,
which compares with the regular pixel.


Read the title of the thread.
The goal was to compare both of the Pixel phones to the iPhone 7.

If *you* want to compare the iPhone 7+ to the phones, you're welcome to do
so but that doesn't make *this* comparison any different.

4. Pixel XL has far greater resolution and pixel density than the iPhone 7


it's a little bit higher than the iphone 7+, but not anything human
eyes can see so it doesn't actually matter in the real world.

it's just more pixels to move around (which increases memory demands).


Fair enough. I'm sure *both* displays are just fine.

5. Both have quad-core CPUs where the Pixel XL is faster with twice the RAM


**** no. not even close.

the iphone 7/7+ processor, which by the way, is *not* a quad core but
rather a dual dual core, blows away the pixel. even last year's iphone
6s is faster.

http://bgr.com/2016/10/05/iphone-7-vs-pixel-benchmarks/
Geekbench 4 scores that just hit the web confirm as much ‹ Google¹s
Pixels score a 1580 on the single-core test and about 4100 on the
multi-core test, while Apple¹s latest iPhones score 3430 and about
5600.

geekbench rates the iphone 7 at *double* the performance on single core
and about 50% faster on multicore. double!! with half the cores!


This is interesting information.
You will note that there was a benchmark score on the gsmarena Apple iPhone
7 page, but there was no corresponding score on the Pixel, so I was forced
to drop that comparison for lack of data (since I was only comparing the
two GSMarena spec pages).


http://www.redmondpie.com/google-pix...iphone-7-7-plu
s-benchmarks-comparison/
Early benchmarks from Geekbench 4 suggests that Apple¹s iPhone 7 and
iPhone 7 Plus easily beat the Pixel phones by Google on both single
and multi-core tests, with even older Apple hardware like the iPhone
SE and iPhone 6s outperforming the yet-to-be-released Google devices.

even *last* *year's* iphone 6s beats the pixel!!

as for memory, android has a higher memory overhead. it *needs* the
extra memory.

not only that, but the iphone 7+ has 3 gig (versus 4 gig in the pixel,
just ~30% more), mostly for the dual-lens camera which the pixel does
not have.


This is good information.

6. Cameras are discussed on another thread (let's call it even for now)


let's not, because the cameras are not even.

the pixel lacks optical image stabilization, has a slower lens and for
the iphone 7+, does not have a dual lens with optical zoom and portrait
mode.

they're both good cameras, but not 'even'.


Fair enough. I think both cameras are fine.

One side note is that Google MARKETING is *advertising* the camera as "the
best smartphone camera ever", so, we will probably see Apple MARKETING
respond accordingly (where Apple has the best marketing in the world!).

Google claims the Pixel has the 'best smartphone camera ever'
https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/04/...a-rating-ever/

Of course, the clickbait has followed suit:
5 reasons why the Pixel may have the best smartphone camera ever
http://www.greenbot.com/article/3127...mera-ever.html

Given this is a contentious argument that is out of my league (and given I
don't give a hoot about cameras since I own a real one), I will stay out of
the fray by saying the cameras are essentially equivalent.

7. Neither has an expansion card slot (which is a bummer for both)
8. The Pixel XL has a real 3.5mm jack while the iPhone 7 lost that feature


who cares. most people never use either one.

wireless is where it's at.


A lot of people care, and "I" care, so, that's why the jack is there.
I think Apple will *eventually* crumble due to their dictator-like
autocratic decisions which they can only MARKET as "courageous".

Well, Josef Stalin was courageous. So was Sheikh Hasina. Apple is more like
Kim Jong-il in that they are a "dynasty" where Tim Cook is just a
figurehead where the real power is APPLE MARKETING.

I don't think the Apple dictatorship will crumble in the next five years,
but, with Google seemingly going directly for the jugular, APPLE MARKETING
can only keep up the charade for so long. How long? Dunno. Ten years?
I don't think Apple will crumble in less than five years. So, mark my words
on ten years and we'll just have to discuss that comment in the future.

Point is that APPLE MARKETING can only carry the company for so long. At
some point, someone else will COPY the MARKETING MOVES by Apple. Google is
clearly doing that here with the Pixel, even down to the price.

So I wouldn't put it past Google themselves to remove the headphone jack,
and pass the lost functionality on to the consumer as a "courageous"
marketing move.


9. WiFi on the Pixel XL is slightly better (with Wi-Fi Direct & DLNA)


wrong.

iphones have had wifi direct for *years*, the very feature you keep
insisting is not needed because you prefer the much slower bluetooth.


Huh? Who said anything about bluetooth in that spec? Now you're just
complaining with a total lack of merit.

The WiFi is essentially the same, with the Pixels being "slightly better"
in that they have Wi-Fi Direct and DLNA whereas the iPhone 7 doesn't list
that.

It is a big deal?
Probably not.

But it *is* slightly better on the Pixels.

10. Bluetooth specs are the same essentially
11. GPS specs are the same essentially


first valid thing you've said so far.

12. NFC seems slightly better on the Pixel XL than on the iPhone 7


also true. nfc on android is a bit more flexible.


Actually, Rod Speed countered that the NFC on Android, while more flexible,
is perhaps less secure.

So I'd call the NFC a wash, overall in that:
a. Apparently NFC on the iPhone 7 is less flexible but more secure
b. Apparently NFC on the Pixels is more flexible but perhaps less secure

It's a wash, overall, but either one is slightly better than the other
depending on if you're scared or if you want flexibility.

13. USB connector is 3.0 on the Pixel XL (versus 2.0 on the iPhone 7)


that doesn't mean much of anything in the real world because flash
memory is the limiting factor.


Fair enough. What I *love* about USB 3.0 is the bi-directional connector,
which, as we all know, Apple pioneered.

14. Sensors are the same (FP, Accel, Gyro, Prox, Compass, Baro)
15. Talk time is more than double for the Pixel XL over the iPhone 7
16. Music play time on the Pixel XL is three times that of the iPhone 7


you're once again comparing a larger pixel xl with the smaller iphone 7.

i'm quite sure you're doing that intentionally to skew your supposed
'comparison'.

either compare the pixel with the iphone 7 or the pixel xl with the
iphone 7+.


The talk time is slightly more than double for the Pixel XL over the iPhone
7, and slightly less than double for the Pixel over the iPhone 7, so, we
can "summarize" that as both Pixels are about double the talk time as the
iPhone 7. This is a big deal from a battery standpoint.

Similarly, the music-play time is slightly more than three times for the
Pixel XL and slightly less than three times for the Pixel, so, again, we
can "summarize" that as about three times more.

This is a big deal if battery life is important to the user.
The huge battery life difference is not as meaningful if battery life isn't
important to the user.

Overall, on the listed performance features, it seems the Pixel XL is
arguably far better than the iPhone 7 by a wide margin in some specs, and
by a slim margin in others, and they're essentially equal in a bunch of
ways.


it's an invalid comparison.

they're both good phones, which are priced exactly the same.

so much for android being cheaper.


I *knew* you'd say that last comment, and I'd *agree* with you.
Of course, I can find *plenty* of cheaper Android phones, but I don't look
at price first. I look at *performance* first, and, essentially, the Pixel
line of phones is apparently designed to complete on *performance* with the
iPhone 7 line of phones.

After looking at these specs, and then, at the end, looking up the price,
it seems that these two lines of phones are direct 1:1 competitors on
priceerformance.

This means, (to me), Apple will eventually crumble.

Why I say such a remarkable thing is that up until now, Apple has been able
to maintain artificially high prices based purely on hugely successful
MARKETING campaigns.

Up until now, almost nobody could claim the hardware margins that Apple
claims, and, as you yourself said, Google sold many of its phones at a
*loss*.

Now that Google MARKETING has apparently decided to copy Apple MARKETING
(almost completely with respect to priceerformance ratios), what happens
*next* is a matter of conjecture - but - I feel Apple must fail "if" Google
wins.

I don't see into the future, so I can see one of two scenarios:
a. Google wins big with these phones, or,
b. Nobody buys them.

If nobody buys them, nothing changes for Apple, since Apple isn't in the
market for low priceerformance ratios.

However, if these Pixel phones sell, then that means that Apple no longer
can maintain the sole spot in the lousy priceerformance ratios (for the
consumer).

I personally would *never* buy a Pixel simply because the priceerformance
sucks as bad as it does for an iPhone 7 (that isn't free anyway).

But, if *other* people buy the Pixel line of phones, then what happens is
that Apples market share in the lousy priceerformance category is eroded,
and, since there are too many other competitors out there who would love to
be in that niche, Apple will (I predict) eventually crumble.

However, I don't actually think many Android people will be dumb enough to
pay that much for the performance of the Google Pixel phones.

Lord knows there are plenty of Apple aficionados who pay that much for so
little of a priceerformance ratio; but the question at hand is whether
Android users will be that dumb.

Personally, I don't think so.
That means Apple is safe for now.

However, if there are a lot of dumb Android users out there, then Apple is
doomed.

It all depends on who is willing to pay for a lousy priceerformance ratio
on a very good phone.

Looking up the price for a 32GB version of each:
Pixel XL = $769
iPhone 7 = $650


you're so disingenuous that you even artificially inflated the iphone
price by a buck.


Thanks for catching that. I was cutting and pasting but the Apple site
wouldn't cut and paste so I typed it.

You're correct that I was off by a buck for the 32GB version:
Pixel XL $770
iPhone 7 $650

Plus tax.

here's the price comparison:

iphone 7+ 32 gig: $769
pixel xl 32 gig: $769
128 gig version, add $100

pixel 32 gig: $649
iphone 7 32 gig: $649
128 gig version, add $100

they're *exactly* the same.


This is the most obvious point, which is that the Google Pixel line of
phones is *designed* to compete directly, 1:1, on Price:Performance, to the
Apple iPhone 7 line of phones.

If this gamble works, it will spell the beginning of the end for the Apple
dictatorship; if this gamble fails, nothing will change.

So everything depends (IMHO) on whether Android users are dumb enough to
pay that much for a good phone.

also note that the iphone offers 256 gig for an additional $100 over
the 128 gig, while the pixel does not offer 256 gig at all, no matter
how much you want to pay.

Next I'll compare the Pixel to the iPhone 7 by specs.


that's what you should have done in the first place.


Your idea of comparing the iPhone 7 to the Pixel and the iPhone 7+ to the
Pixel XL makes a lot of sense; but I had not known ahead of time that they
would be essentially mirror equivalents in so many specs and in the price.

Remember, I always look at price *last* and I have to take the assemblage
of specs as a whole, so, were I to start this thread over, I would compare,
as you did:

iPhone 7 to Pixel
iPhone 7+ to Pixel XL

BTW, I think this Google gamble will fail in that Android users aren't so
dumb as to pay that much for a good phone but if this gamble wins, then
Apple is doomed since this lousy Price:Performance point is *their*
fundamental market, and if Google can play in Apple's pond, so can everyone
else.
 




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