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Old October 1st 05, 06:20 PM
RedFox
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Hello Experts :-)

I bought a Panasonic A100 phone, while in Spain earlier this year. It has
a Telefonica Movistar SIM chip. I tried to buy other SIM chips - for
Portugal and USA - to use in the phone outside Spain but am told that I
can't use another SIM card until the phone is unlocked. I asked Panasonic
about unlocking and they referred me to Telefonica.

I asked Telefonica for the unlock code but I had no response. Then I looked
at the
original invoice and saw that it was over six months. I had not been in
Spain for 5
months and I had not made any payment, so the account was dead and the SIM
chip useless. I reported that information to Pansasonic and they have
ignored it
and made no further attempt to contact me.

There are many places on the internet that claim to offer unlock abilities
but I haven't
much confidence in any of them, not having experience of this game of
lock/unlock crap.

Help appreciated.

rf


  #2  
Old October 2nd 05, 12:56 AM
matt weber
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 17:20:54 GMT, "RedFox" wrote:

Hello Experts :-)

I bought a Panasonic A100 phone, while in Spain earlier this year. It has
a Telefonica Movistar SIM chip. I tried to buy other SIM chips - for
Portugal and USA - to use in the phone outside Spain but am told that I
can't use another SIM card until the phone is unlocked. I asked Panasonic
about unlocking and they referred me to Telefonica.

I asked Telefonica for the unlock code but I had no response. Then I looked
at the
original invoice and saw that it was over six months. I had not been in
Spain for 5
months and I had not made any payment, so the account was dead and the SIM
chip useless. I reported that information to Pansasonic and they have
ignored it
and made no further attempt to contact me.

There are many places on the internet that claim to offer unlock abilities
but I haven't
much confidence in any of them, not having experience of this game of
lock/unlock crap.

Help appreciated.


First of all the SIM is probably not dead. I'd bet money that if you
walked into a Telefonica office, and paid the money, they would
re-activate it. It is less expensive than handing out a new SIM, you
may however end up with a different telephone number.

It is locked because the phone was probably heavily subsidized when
you bought it. They hope you will use it enough on their network over
the next couple years to pay off the subsidy, but there is no
guarantee, at the same time they (and most other service providers)
have no desire to subsidize any other service provider, so it is
locked.

The only time was able to get a locked phone unlocked was a PacBell
Mobile GSM phone. I bought it on ebay supposedly as unlocked. I
pointed out to PBMS that if it remained locked, it simply meant that
when I was in PBMS service areas, I wouldn't be roaming at all, and
have an Australian GSM number to back up my claim. Roaming is
intensely profitable for carriers, so it only took them about an hour
to decide it was worth their while to unlock it. I presume they took
part of the time to find out if the Australian number I gave them was
valid, and if it was me......

For PBMS is was business decision, but that is a very different
situation than if I was a VoiceStream (now T-Mobile), or Omnipoint
users at the time. There was no guarantee (but a high probability),
the would derive significant revenue from the decision. By contrast as
as another USA GSM provider customer, they would have been subsidizing
the phone for someone else, with no prospect for significant revenue
from the decision.
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Old October 2nd 05, 07:20 PM
RedFox
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"matt weber" wrote in message
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 17:20:54 GMT, "RedFox" wrote:

Hello Experts :-)

I bought a Panasonic A100 phone, while in Spain earlier this year. It has
a Telefonica Movistar SIM chip. I tried to buy other SIM chips - for
Portugal and USA - to use in the phone outside Spain but am told that I
can't use another SIM card until the phone is unlocked. I asked Panasonic
about unlocking and they referred me to Telefonica.

I asked Telefonica for the unlock code but I had no response. Then I

looked
at the
original invoice and saw that it was over six months. I had not been in
Spain for 5
months and I had not made any payment, so the account was dead and the

SIM
chip useless. I reported that information to Pansasonic and they have
ignored it
and made no further attempt to contact me.

There are many places on the internet that claim to offer unlock

abilities
but I haven't
much confidence in any of them, not having experience of this game of
lock/unlock crap.

Help appreciated.


First of all the SIM is probably not dead. I'd bet money that if you
walked into a Telefonica office, and paid the money, they would
re-activate it. It is less expensive than handing out a new SIM, you
may however end up with a different telephone number.

It is locked because the phone was probably heavily subsidized when
you bought it. They hope you will use it enough on their network over
the next couple years to pay off the subsidy, but there is no
guarantee, at the same time they (and most other service providers)
have no desire to subsidize any other service provider, so it is
locked.

The only time was able to get a locked phone unlocked was a PacBell
Mobile GSM phone. I bought it on ebay supposedly as unlocked. I
pointed out to PBMS that if it remained locked, it simply meant that
when I was in PBMS service areas, I wouldn't be roaming at all, and
have an Australian GSM number to back up my claim. Roaming is
intensely profitable for carriers, so it only took them about an hour
to decide it was worth their while to unlock it. I presume they took
part of the time to find out if the Australian number I gave them was
valid, and if it was me......

For PBMS is was business decision, but that is a very different
situation than if I was a VoiceStream (now T-Mobile), or Omnipoint
users at the time. There was no guarantee (but a high probability),
the would derive significant revenue from the decision. By contrast as
as another USA GSM provider customer, they would have been subsidizing
the phone for someone else, with no prospect for significant revenue
from the decision.


Thank you very much Matt for that great effort and explanation.

The phone cost me 89 Euros - about $120 - and the chip cost 25 Euros -
about $33. The cost of the same phone here is about $90 and, having bought
them in bulk from Panasonic, Telefonica can't have had much of a subsidy.
It's just big,
bloated, inefficient and expects to rob everyone in sight - like the old
AT&T up to the early
1980s.

Problem is that I don't intend to return to Spain in the visible future, so
it looks like I'll have to look for an honest outfit that will unlock it for
me, or just
trash it.

Thanks again

rf .





  #4  
Old October 3rd 05, 12:52 AM
matt weber
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On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:20:57 GMT, "RedFox" wrote:


"matt weber" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 17:20:54 GMT, "RedFox" wrote:


Thank you very much Matt for that great effort and explanation.

The phone cost me 89 Euros - about $120 - and the chip cost 25 Euros -
about $33. The cost of the same phone here is about $90 and, having bought
them in bulk from Panasonic, Telefonica can't have had much of a subsidy.
It's just big,
bloated, inefficient and expects to rob everyone in sight - like the old
AT&T up to the early
1980s.

At $90, it is almost guaranteed to be locked. It is almost impossible
to buy an unlocked GSM phone in the USA from a dealer (they tie up to
much money in the inventory). 6-7 years ago they could be purchased
from Omnipoint stores (but not dealers) as unlocked, and for example
the Motorola L series triband was $400 unlocked from an Omnipoint
company store. AT&T would neither sell an unlocked phone, or unlock
one you purchased from them, period. Don't know about Cingular.
VoiceStream, now T-Mobile was willing to eventually unlock their
phones, but you had to have been a customer for a while with a good
payment record.

Also figure the 89 Euro price probably had import duty, and VAT buried
inside, probably about 25% of the price. The USA import duties are
quite small compared to most of the world, and we don't have VAT at
15-22% either...

Problem is that I don't intend to return to Spain in the visible future, so
it looks like I'll have to look for an honest outfit that will unlock it for
me, or just
trash it.

Thanks again

rf .





  #5  
Old October 3rd 05, 02:02 AM
RedFox
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Thanks again Matt.

The actual, VAT free, price of the A100 was 77 Euros, which would be about
$96.

All this hassle has me heading back to land phones. Thank goodness I don't
really need a cell phone and I intend to do without them. The reason I
bought one in the first place was that I rented an apartment, that had no
land phone, for a month. Never again!

Your help is much appreciated.

rf

"matt weber" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:20:57 GMT, "RedFox" wrote:


"matt weber" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 17:20:54 GMT, "RedFox" wrote:


Thank you very much Matt for that great effort and explanation.

The phone cost me 89 Euros - about $120 - and the chip cost 25 Euros -
about $33. The cost of the same phone here is about $90 and, having

bought
them in bulk from Panasonic, Telefonica can't have had much of a subsidy.
It's just big,
bloated, inefficient and expects to rob everyone in sight - like the old
AT&T up to the early
1980s.

At $90, it is almost guaranteed to be locked. It is almost impossible
to buy an unlocked GSM phone in the USA from a dealer (they tie up to
much money in the inventory). 6-7 years ago they could be purchased
from Omnipoint stores (but not dealers) as unlocked, and for example
the Motorola L series triband was $400 unlocked from an Omnipoint
company store. AT&T would neither sell an unlocked phone, or unlock
one you purchased from them, period. Don't know about Cingular.
VoiceStream, now T-Mobile was willing to eventually unlock their
phones, but you had to have been a customer for a while with a good
payment record.

Also figure the 89 Euro price probably had import duty, and VAT buried
inside, probably about 25% of the price. The USA import duties are
quite small compared to most of the world, and we don't have VAT at
15-22% either...

Problem is that I don't intend to return to Spain in the visible future,

so
it looks like I'll have to look for an honest outfit that will unlock it

for
me, or just
trash it.

Thanks again

rf .








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Old December 2nd 11, 07:17 AM
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you can try unlocking your phone through codes. you can get the codes from Superunlockcodes.com to unlock your phone.
 




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