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Old July 11th 17, 03:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
Frank Slootweg
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nospam wrote:
In article , Poutnik
wrote:


wifi does not need a lan or an access point. it can go direct between
two devices.


It is well known.


it's not well known, as it's a fairly recent addition to the spec and
only recent wifi radios support it.


FSVSVO "recent", unless you consider 5 years to be "recent".
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Old July 11th 17, 03:54 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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On 7/11/2017 8:44 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Can you get me started on how to connect Android 4.3 to Bluetooth on
Windows 10 because I don't have bluetooth yet.

This thread has devolved into a comparison of Bluetooth and LAN transfers.

I find there are times that a bluetooth transfer is faster than a LAN
transfer, especially when you have to get a passcode, etc.

This is the basic procedure to set up a Bluetooth connection. First make
sure that both units are set up in the discovery mode. (For convenience
set the Bluetooth Icon to appear on taskbar) On the Window 10 Computer
(earlier versions are similar) go to the Bluetooth settings. Then add a
Bluetooth device.

Select the device you wish to add and enter the any series of numbers
when requested. When it shows up on the other device enter the exact
same series of number. You are now connected

To recieve a file on the Computer you must set the computer to Recieve
the file. Right Click on the Bluetooth Icon and check recieve.

The procedure on your android device should be similar.


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  #33  
Old July 11th 17, 04:22 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
Char Jackson
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 07:29:30 +0000 (UTC), Dan Jenkins
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 01:02:13 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

Ad hoc WiFi mode might be a possibility. No LAN required.

https://www.howtogeek.com/180649/htg-explains-whats-the-difference-between-ad-hoc-and-infrastructure-mode/


Thank you for suggesting a Wi-Fi option because currently there is no
bluetooth or Wi-Fi card in the desktop so either would be an option.

Would either type of hardware satisfy the requirements of transferring
small (megabyte-sized) files and playing songs between Android & Windows?
(1) Add a Wi-Fi card to the desktop and put it in "Ad-Hoc Mode"
(2) Add a Bluetooth card to the desktop that can go through floors

Which do you think would penetrate floors best?


Given an otherwise equal choice between WiFi and BT, I would lean
strongly toward WiFi.

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Old July 11th 17, 05:25 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In article , micky
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I looked up how to tell if my Windows 10 desktop has bluetooth and it
doesn't seem to have a bluetooth card based on doing these device tests.


I don't think any deskptops come with bluetooth, unless you have the
thing built to spec, but I could be wrong.


you're definitely wrong.
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Old July 11th 17, 05:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In article , Carlos E.R.
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I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN

apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.

Thank you for trying to help but please don't try to help if you're going
to completely ignore the original post by suggesting everything I already
know and which has nothing whatsoever to do with the original question.

Powerful Bluetooth hardware is the correct answer to the question.


no it isn't.


It would be if such a thing existed :-p


it wouldn't, because bluetooth is much too slow for file transfer, no
matter how powerful may be.

WiFi is impossible for a PC that is not even on a LAN.


yes it is, and since it's in your house, why wouldn't it be on a lan?


Because there is no LAN in the house? :-)


why wouldn't there be a lan in the house?

and as i said, it's possible to use wifi without a lan.

in fact, all the cool kids are doing it.
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Old July 11th 17, 05:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote:


wifi does not need a lan or an access point. it can go direct between
two devices.

It is well known.


it's not well known, as it's a fairly recent addition to the spec and
only recent wifi radios support it.


FSVSVO "recent", unless you consider 5 years to be "recent".


wifi is ~20 years old, so yes, and its still not widely adopted yet
including android, which will be in 'o', a system that doesn't even
have an official name.

https://developer.android.com/preview/features/wifi-aware.html
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Old July 11th 17, 05:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In article , Carlos E.R.
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So I need to add bluetooth hardware to the desktop PC.

Am I aware that bluetooth is slower than WiFi or USB cable?
Yes.

Then why do I want bluetooth?

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN

apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.

He was not asking for that..


he asked about file transfer. bluetooth is much too slow for file
transfer. wifi is several orders of magnitude faster.


He is aware of that. In the first post he said so.


apparently not, because he still insists on using bluetooth, so clearly
he's not aware of just how slow it actually is.

He can have a legitimate reason why not to connect to a LAN.


i didn't say anything about connecting to lan.


Yes, you did, on another post:


nope.

i said to use wifi.

i did not mention a lan at all.

In article , nospam
wrote:
use wifi for file transfer, not bluetooth.

  #38  
Old July 11th 17, 05:53 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
Frank Slootweg
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nospam wrote:
In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote:


wifi does not need a lan or an access point. it can go direct between
two devices.

It is well known.


it's not well known, as it's a fairly recent addition to the spec and
only recent wifi radios support it.


FSVSVO "recent", unless you consider 5 years to be "recent".


wifi is ~20 years old, so yes,


In this context - mobile devices - 5 years is a long time, i.e. *not*
"recent", period.

so yes, and its still not widely adopted yet
including android, which will be in 'o', a system that doesn't even
have an official name.


We're talking about Wi-Fi Direct, not some future networking facility.
Wi-Fi Direct exists in Android (4.1) for *five years*, period.

EOD.

https://developer.android.com/preview/features/wifi-aware.html

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Old July 11th 17, 06:02 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote:

wifi does not need a lan or an access point. it can go direct
between
two devices.

It is well known.

it's not well known, as it's a fairly recent addition to the spec and
only recent wifi radios support it.

FSVSVO "recent", unless you consider 5 years to be "recent".


wifi is ~20 years old, so yes,


In this context - mobile devices - 5 years is a long time, i.e. *not*
"recent", period.


the context is *wifi*.

mobile devices are not the only devices to use wifi. far from it.

so yes, and its still not widely adopted yet
including android, which will be in 'o', a system that doesn't even
have an official name.


We're talking about Wi-Fi Direct, not some future networking facility.
Wi-Fi Direct exists in Android (4.1) for *five years*, period.


but not wifi aware, which is newer:
https://developer.android.com/preview/features/wifi-aware.html
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Old July 11th 17, 07:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
Char Jackson
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 02:53:26 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Poutnik
wrote:

So I need to add bluetooth hardware to the desktop PC.

Am I aware that bluetooth is slower than WiFi or USB cable?
Yes.

Then why do I want bluetooth?

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN

apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.

He was not asking for that..

he asked about file transfer. bluetooth is much too slow for file
transfer. wifi is several orders of magnitude faster.


That is well known and he knows it.


there's no evidence of that.


Unless you count the following, copied from the original post, above:

Am I aware that bluetooth is slower than WiFi or USB cable?
Yes.


 




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