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Old July 11th 17, 08:46 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Default Connecting Android to Windows 10 by adding bluetooth

Dne 11/07/2017 v 08:23 nospam napsal(a):
In article , Poutnik
wrote:

So I need to add bluetooth hardware to the desktop PC.

Am I aware that bluetooth is slower than WiFi or USB cable?
Yes.

Then why do I want bluetooth?

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN

apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.


He was not asking for that..


he asked about file transfer. bluetooth is much too slow for file
transfer. wifi is several orders of magnitude faster.


That is well known and he knows it.
It was not clear from the original post why he cannot /does not want to
connect other way.

He can have a legitimate reason why not to connect to a LAN.


i didn't say anything about connecting to lan.

He did. One of obvious ways is accessing LAN via Wifi router,
as it was not in the first post PC is not on LAN.

Helping others is rarely useful
while being confrontative toward other opinions.
Even good advices can be then rejected
because of the way they are presented.

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than he says about the subject.
  #12  
Old July 11th 17, 08:53 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Default Connecting Android to Windows 10 by adding bluetooth

In article , Poutnik
wrote:

So I need to add bluetooth hardware to the desktop PC.

Am I aware that bluetooth is slower than WiFi or USB cable?
Yes.

Then why do I want bluetooth?

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN

apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.

He was not asking for that..


he asked about file transfer. bluetooth is much too slow for file
transfer. wifi is several orders of magnitude faster.


That is well known and he knows it.


there's no evidence of that.

It was not clear from the original post why he cannot /does not want to
connect other way.


it is to those who have seen his posts under other nyms.

He can have a legitimate reason why not to connect to a LAN.


i didn't say anything about connecting to lan.


He did. One of obvious ways is accessing LAN via Wifi router,
as it was not in the first post PC is not on LAN.


wifi does not need a lan or an access point. it can go direct between
two devices.

https://developer.android.com/preview/features/wifi-aware.html
https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/wifip2p.html
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Old July 11th 17, 09:08 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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WiFi is impossible for a PC that is not even on a LAN.
USB cable is inconvenient when going from floor to floor.
Same with speaker cables.

Actually, there is a version of WiFi called WIFI Direct, which will allow
to WIFI devices that support it to talk to each other without a router in
between. You would have to add a WIFI dongle that supports Direct to a USB
port on your desktop.

Alternatively, get a regular WIFI dongle for your desktop, and a regular
router that supports WIFI. You don't have to have a LAN in this case. WIFI
dongle to router WIFI to Android WIFi.

Or, get a WIFI enabled router, and plug it into your desktop with a short
LAN cable, then Android to the router.

Granted, this would not support your expressed desire to Bluetooth to the
desktop speakers, but you could stream via WIFI and get the same result. Or
do what I did and get an Oontz Plus portable speaker to use with your
Android. Works great and sounds wonderful.
  #14  
Old July 11th 17, 09:21 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Default Connecting Android to Windows 10 by adding bluetooth

Dne 11/07/2017 v 08:53 nospam napsal(a):
In article , Poutnik
wrote:

So I need to add bluetooth hardware to the desktop PC.

Am I aware that bluetooth is slower than WiFi or USB cable?
Yes.

Then why do I want bluetooth?

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN

apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.

He was not asking for that..

he asked about file transfer. bluetooth is much too slow for file
transfer. wifi is several orders of magnitude faster.


That is well known and he knows it.


there's no evidence of that.


Not for blinds, or if one is closing eyes.


He can have a legitimate reason why not to connect to a LAN.

i didn't say anything about connecting to lan.


He did. One of obvious ways is accessing LAN via Wifi router,
as it was not in the first post PC is not on LAN.


wifi does not need a lan or an access point. it can go direct between
two devices.


It is well known.

As you have cut away the confrontation note,
it seems you have a real problem in that.

And as far as I can remember you, you really have.


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Old July 11th 17, 09:23 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Default Connecting Android to Windows 10 by adding bluetooth

In article , Poutnik
wrote:


wifi does not need a lan or an access point. it can go direct between
two devices.


It is well known.


it's not well known, as it's a fairly recent addition to the spec and
only recent wifi radios support it.
  #16  
Old July 11th 17, 09:25 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Dne 11/07/2017 v 09:08 Tim napsal(a):


Alternatively, get a regular WIFI dongle for your desktop, and a regular
router that supports WIFI. You don't have to have a LAN in this case. WIFI
dongle to router WIFI to Android WIFi.
..


WLAN..... Behaviour of LAN, but through wifi signal, not ethernet cable.
I have Android sync application working in this way, but PC is on wire.

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  #17  
Old July 11th 17, 09:29 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Poutnik wrote:


It was not obvious from the original post the PC is not on LAN.

I got in my other post an impression
you just do not want/are not allowed to connect your Android to LAN.

A good scenario description helps to prevent irrelevant replies.


I apologize if I didn't make it clear when I said in the original post
"To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN"
that the question was not going to be solved by joining a LAN.

Allow me to clarify that the question is specific to creating a device to
PC network without joining a LAN and without cabling a wire through floors
(either a speaker cable or a USB cable).

I didn't know about the "Ad-Hoc Mode" of a Wi-Fi card so that gives me two
good answers that should work.

Are these my options?
(1) Add a Wi-Fi card to the desktop and put it in "Ad-Hoc Mode"
(2) Add a Bluetooth card to the desktop that can go through floors

Do you know which of these hardware choices goes best through floors?
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Old July 11th 17, 09:29 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 01:02:13 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

Ad hoc WiFi mode might be a possibility. No LAN required.

https://www.howtogeek.com/180649/htg-explains-whats-the-difference-between-ad-hoc-and-infrastructure-mode/


Thank you for suggesting a Wi-Fi option because currently there is no
bluetooth or Wi-Fi card in the desktop so either would be an option.

Would either type of hardware satisfy the requirements of transferring
small (megabyte-sized) files and playing songs between Android & Windows?
(1) Add a Wi-Fi card to the desktop and put it in "Ad-Hoc Mode"
(2) Add a Bluetooth card to the desktop that can go through floors

Which do you think would penetrate floors best?
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Old July 11th 17, 09:29 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 11 Jul 2017 02:43:42 +0000 (UTC), Dan
Jenkins wrote:

Can you get me started on how to connect Android 4.3 to Bluetooth on
Windows 10 because I don't have bluetooth yet.


YOu can get a USB Bluetooth dongle for $2 on Amazon or ebay, including
shipping. I think they were only 1 dollar a few years ago. I bought
two kinds and one worked and one didn't. One came with a mini-CD but
you don't need that with win10.

How powerful it is, I don't know. It's half the size of a 3 pennies
and plugs into a USB jack.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw...d=1&_i pg=200
But I don't know if these fit a PC and I don't have any specs to know if
a card is more powerful than a dongle, or how much.

I looked up how to tell if my Windows 10 desktop has bluetooth and it
doesn't seem to have a bluetooth card based on doing these device tests.


I don't think any deskptops come with bluetooth, unless you have the
thing built to spec, but I could be wrong.

Wikip: Bluetooth is a wireless technology standard for exchanging data
over short distances (using short-wavelength UHF radio waves in the ISM
band from 2.4 to 2.485 GHz. Don't cordless phones use similar freq.
and my 5.8GHzcordless phone transmitter goes from the second floor to
the basement and 80 feet out to the yard.

Class Max. permitted power Typ. range[3]
(mW) dBm) (m)
1 100 20 ~100
2 2.5 4 ~10
3 1 0 ~1
4 0.5 -3 ~0.5

So I guess that means yhou need class 1.

You intend to use a battery powered bluetooth speaker?? And carry it
with you?


http://blog.drivethelife.com/bluetoo...oth-built.html
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-in-windows-10

So I need to add bluetooth hardware to the desktop PC.

Am I aware that bluetooth is slower than WiFi or USB cable?
Yes.


I saw that you said this. I don't know why nospam thought you didn't
know this.

Then why do I want bluetooth?

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN


Back and forth from your phone to the PC? Yeah, it's slow. Why not buy
a used wireless router on ebay. Then you can use MyPhoneExplorer to
transfer files, and even to add contacts, send and receive texts usilng
a full size keyboard and monitor.


(2) To play songs from Android onto the more powerful computer speakers


Surely this stays put even while you move, so if you're too far away to
hear it, your bluetooth doesn't have to go that far either. ;-)

Not at all what you asked but I get my music on the PC using the many
channels on RadioMaximus (free) Pandora (free iirc) Tunein (free last I
looked) and I bought wireless speakers. I'll admit that the ones they
sell now are maybe 5 times the price from 5 or 10 years ago, and I
bought mine either surplus or second hand, so I got by cheaply. But I
don't care about stereo and I have a speaker in the bathroom, my
bedroom, the kitchen, and hte workshop/laundry room. And a spare for
outdoors which I haven't used because I just play the radio instead. .

You might still find them used, or you can buy the new version of
wireless speakers.


Since I don't have bluetooth on the desktop, what hardware is best to add?


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Old July 11th 17, 09:41 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 08:46:30 +0200, Poutnik
wrote:

Dne 11/07/2017 v 08:23 nospam napsal(a):
In article , Poutnik
wrote:

So I need to add bluetooth hardware to the desktop PC.

Am I aware that bluetooth is slower than WiFi or USB cable?
Yes.

Then why do I want bluetooth?

I want bluetooth for only two things (but you can suggest more).
(1) To transfer files back & forth without having to join a local LAN

apparently you aren't aware that it's slower than wifi or usb,
otherwise you wouldn't be asking for that.

He was not asking for that..


he asked about file transfer. bluetooth is much too slow for file
transfer. wifi is several orders of magnitude faster.


That is well known and he knows it.
It was not clear from the original post why he cannot /does not want to
connect other way.

He can have a legitimate reason why not to connect to a LAN.


i didn't say anything about connecting to lan.

He did. One of obvious ways is accessing LAN via Wifi router,
as it was not in the first post PC is not on LAN.

Helping others is rarely useful
while being confrontative toward other opinions.
Even good advices can be then rejected
because of the way they are presented.


You and the OP are hard to understand due to your
poor command of English.
 




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